Jump to content

  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

HIRE WILKS

NJPanthers12

By NJPanthers12,
in Carolina Panthers

 Share

Recommended Posts

rayzor Grand Master

rayzor

Posted
Posted
25 minutes ago, tgrfan01 said:

again..you are basically saying he cant lose a game..that is basically an impossible feat to set on the guy...any big named coach we hire will lose to teams we should beat as well.

No, that's saying that he can lose a couple games, but not this game. 

It's not an impossible feat. Beating the Steelers was not a  impossible feat...and if it is, then that is an even bigger red flag and reason to NOT hire him full time.

  • Pie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
raleigh-panther Grand Master

raleigh-panther

Posted
Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, rayzor said:

He didn't have to go undefeated. 

He had to win this very winnable game with what he had....at home 

Time to move on 

I’ve supported Coach Wilks 

Today, going for field goals instead of trying to win by going for it and if it wasn’t made, pinning Pittsburgh back was a deal breaker for me 

it’s not like the panthers had anything to lose by, at last pretending to be creative on offense. 

the fact that this team had everything to play for and nothing to lose to come out flat like they did, and those with  the C on their jerseys not doing more, I’m in favor of blowing it fully up …staff, Fitterer, moving players, all of it 

both lines got beaten…the defense with all those high draft picks and the offense with a rebuilt line and they still suck

they can’t play the Falcons every week.

 

Edited by raleigh-panther
  • Pie 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites
SmokinwithWilly Grand Master

SmokinwithWilly

Posted
Posted
26 minutes ago, rayzor said:

No, that's saying that he can lose a couple games, but not this game. 

It's not an impossible feat. Beating the Steelers was not a  impossible feat...and if it is, then that is an even bigger red flag and reason to NOT hire him full time.

This is the first time this year Trubisky looked like an NFL QB. Our defense was flat out abused and our vaunted run blocking OL looked like the 3 stooges. 

  • Beer 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
RevJ Proficient

RevJ

Posted
Posted

Wilks has shown he can take a bad team and make them average.   That's not the same as taking an average team and making them winners.  

I love the guy and what he stands for but watching today seemed to show he's not in Tomlin's class. When a team that has everything to play for gets trucked by a team that has no real reason to win it doesn't seem to be a good sign. He clearly has more substance than Rhule but I feel the same about hiring him long term that I do about darnold.  Good people, just not going to accomplish what we all want.

  • Pie 4
Link to comment
Share on other sites
rayzor Grand Master

rayzor

Posted
Posted
1 minute ago, RevJ said:

Wilks has shown he can take a bad team and make them average.   That's not the same as taking an average team and making them winners.  

I love the guy and what he stands for but watching today seemed to show he's not in Tomlin's class. When a team that has everything to play for gets trucked by a team that has no real reason to win it doesn't seem to be a good sign. He clearly has more substance than Rhule but I feel the same about hiring him long term that I do about darnold.  Good people, just not going to accomplish what we all want.

Low ceiling. Too low.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
philit99 Mentor

philit99

Posted
Posted
2 hours ago, Wundrbread33 said:

I mean the Steelers always beat the poo out of us. 
 

And did you hear when they kneeled for the win? This wasn’t a home game for us at all. Never is when they are in town. It’s pitiful. 

This, I fugging despise how Pittsburg is represented in this state. Same thing for the Penguins against the canes, they are always represented here. It is embarrassing.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Mr. Scot Grand Master

Mr. Scot

Posted
Posted
1 hour ago, 4Corners said:

I like Wilks

This is kind of a key phrase.

Damn near everybody likes Steve Wilks, and likewise everyone respects him.

But do we believe he's capable of leading the team to become a perennial contender?

I think we want to.

He's like that person you dated that you aren't really attracted to but you like so much you wish you were.

Over time though, you come to understand that's just not gonna happen 😕

Link to comment
Share on other sites
4Corners Grand Master

4Corners

Posted
Posted
9 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

This is kind of a key phrase.

Damn near everybody likes Steve Wilks, and likewise everyone respects him.

But do we believe he's capable of leading the team to become a perennial contender?

I think we want to.

He's like that person you dated that you aren't really attracted to but you like so much you wish you were.

Over time though, you come to understand that's just not gonna happen 😕

Another thing that is not fair to him (or us) is we compare to him to Ruhle, who is the worst coach in team history. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
 Share
Go to topic listing

  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • TheSpecialJuan
      Explicating the Panthers' Defensiveness

      By TheSpecialJuan · Posted

      I can't wait to go through this analysis 
    • SmokinwithWilly
      Panthers Sign QB Will Grier

      By SmokinwithWilly · Posted

      What's more likely? An entire competant NFL front office (as many here suggest Morgan runs) has watched Bryce struggle week in and week out to perform at the bare minimum of NFL QBs for 3 years and has decided that's the future of this organization, OR our owner who has proven repeatedly he can't keep his nose out of team decision making has declared Bryce is our QB until he decides otherwise, especially given he's the one that drafted him in the first place? 
    • MHS831
      Explicating the Panthers' Defensiveness

      By MHS831 · Posted

      It is time to take a look at the defense.  Without further ado do.... Edge (OLB):  I think we overpaid for Jaelan Phillips, but he is constant pressure with 73 pressures in 2025, ranking 9th in the NFL.  In all, he was the 20th (of 111) rated pass rushing edge in 2025 according to PFF, putting him in the top 20% in the nfl.  With a pair of solid ILBs beside him and if we can get Wharton going, I think the sum of the parts will make him better than he was in Philly.  Furthermore, with second-year pro Princely Umanmielen behind him, I expect him to grow with the tutoring and competition. On the other side, the duo of Nick Scourton and Patrick Jones II is strong, in my view.  Scourton generated 34 total pressures as a pass rusher. That total included 8 sacks, 23 hurries, 3 hits. Against the run, he recorded 28 solo tackles. For a rookie, second round, edge, that is great.  He also forced 1 fumble on the season. Jones was decent in 2025 in just 131 snaps, but he is solid veteran depth.   We seem to lack the elite pass rusher, but this rotational unit will be a big upgrade over last season.  Expect Scourton and Princely to show improvement. While it is unlikely that we add more to edge this draft, you can never have too many pass rushers (well, you can--two sophomores and two veterans is a good mix). Would the Panthers take an edge if one was sitting there? Absolutely. Defensive End:  Derrick Brown is a stud.  I did not notice how dominant he became as a pass rusher.  His PFF pass-rush grade of 72.0 ranked 23rd among 134 qualified interior defensive linemans. His run-defense grade of 66.3 ranked 22nd at the position. He generated 35 total pressures as a pass rusher. That total included 6 sacks, 23 hurries, 6 hits. On the other side:  What the hell?  Tershawn Wharton earned a 40.8 overall PFF defensive grade in the 2025 season, 127th among 134 qualified interior defensive linemans. His PFF pass-rush grade of 57.0 ranked 95th among 134 qualified interior defensive linemen. His run-defense grade of 34.8 ranked 125th at the position. However, Wharton needs to be situational and we really need a few DEs who can plug and pressure.  LaBryan Ray is an interior defensive lineman for the Carolina Panthers who earned a 45.7 overall PFF defensive grade in the 2025 season.  You cannot tell me that we are not going to add a DE.  In my view, this is a HUGE need that we have not adequately addressed.  There were only 3 DEs in the NFL who played more snaps that Derrick Brown.  We have to give him more blows during the game.  So After Brown, we have 2 other players who need to improve a lot to reach mediocre. Nose Tackle:  Of course, a NT might move out some to help stuff the run at DE opposite Brown, and stats do not always reflect on a NT's actual value.  Bobby Brown III earned a 54.1 overall PFF defensive grade in the 2025 season, 80th among 134 qualified interior defensive linemen.  His PFF pass-rush grade of 51.1 ranked 126th among 134 qualified interior defensive linemans. His run-defense grade of 57.8 ranked 51st at the position.   Behind him, Cam'Ron Jackson is an  earned a 45.5 overall PFF defensive grade in the 2025 season.   The defensive line is weak, based on 2025 performance rankings in PFF.  After DBrown, they pretty much suck.  These are the guys our ILBs will be counting on. Inside Linebacker:  Devin Lloyd earned a 89.1 overall PFF defensive grade in the 2025 season, 3rd among 88 qualified linebackers. His PFF coverage grade of 81.1 ranked 3rd among 88 qualified linebackers. His run-defense grade of 83.2 ranked 11th at the position. His pass-rush grade of 82.2 ranked 5th among qualified linebackers.  He's good.  At the moment, beside him is Trevin Wallace  who earned a 55.9 overall PFF defensive grade in the 2025 season, 57th among 88 qualified linebackers. His PFF coverage grade of 64.5 ranked 25th among 88 qualified linebackers. His run-defense grade of 42.3 ranked 85th at the position. His pass-rush grade of 64.2 ranked 45th among qualified linebackers.  Wallace was best as a coverage LB, and based on my memory, I am not sure he was in the top third, but if PFF says so...however, he was nearly last vs. the run.  We need better to play beside Lloyd.  Bam Morris-Scott earned a 37.6 overall PFF defensive grade. To put that in perspective, I was rated by PFF at 32.3 on my couch.   Cherilus Claudin is the third best ILB on the roster right now. He earned a 59.2 overall PFF defensive grade in just over 200 snaps.  Having lost Rozeboom, the Panthers are very thin behind Lloyd.  Look for a starting-caliber ILB in the draft.  Wallace is not the guy, but he is decent depth. Nickel CB:  Chau Smith-Wade  earned a 57.0 overall PFF defensive grade in the 2025 season, 79th among 114 qualified cornerbacks. His PFF coverage grade of 57.2 ranked 79th among 114 qualified cornerbacks. His run-defense grade of 55.4 ranked 77th at the position.  For a nickel, he played a lot--garnering over 600 snaps.  Corey Thornton was a pleasant surprise, until he was injured.  However, in just 127 snaps, he was very good, earning a 68.5 overall PFF defensive grade.  I think he can play outside in a pinch, but nickel might be his gig.  I am not sold that Nickel is in good hands, but Thornton is promising.  Smith-Wade is average, and with the experience he has accumulated, we are probably not prioritizing Nickel, but there are some good nickels in the draft. Cornerback:  Michael Jackson should have been in the pro bowl.  He earned a 79.1 overall PFF defensive grade in the 2025 season, 4th among 114 qualified cornerbacks. His PFF coverage grade of 80.9 ranked 3rd among 114 qualified cornerbacks. His run-defense grade of 67.2 ranked 36th at the position. He recorded 4 interceptions on the season. Jackson broke up 9 passes in coverage. He allowed a 72.9 passer rating when targeted by opposing quarterbacks --SOLID!!  Our second-best CB, Jaycee Horn, was in the pro bowl.  He earned a 57.8 overall PFF defensive grade in the 2025 season, 76th among 114 qualified corner.backs. His PFF coverage grade of 61.6 ranked 61st among 114 qualified cornerbacks. His run-defense grade of 50.5 ranked 87th at the position.  He recorded 5 interceptions on the season.  Our CBs had NINE interceptions in 2025.  It is doubtful they duplicate that figure, but Jackson was our best CB.   We are thin at CB, but the two we put out there are solid.  Nickel, at this time, is "meh," but both are developing and should improve.  A great draft for Nickel.  The Panthers will add a CB somehow. Safety:  For now, Trevon Moehrig is as advertised--above average vs. the run, below average in coverage, making him average. He earned a 64.3 overall PFF defensive grade in the 2025 season, 50th among 98 qualified safeties. His PFF coverage grade of 55.3 ranked 64th among 98 qualified safeties. His run-defense grade of 73.5 ranked 37th at the position.  Lathan Ransom got some valuable experience in 2025, getting in on 330 plays or so.  He earned a 62.9 overall PFF defensive grade in the 2025 season, 56th among 98 qualified safeties.  (Average, not bad for a day 3 rookie) His PFF coverage grade of 55.8 ranked 63rd among 98 qualified safeties. His run-defense grade of 85.1 ranked 4th at the position.  A pure strong safety, if you ask me.  Nick Scott  earned a 67.8 overall PFF defensive grade in the 2025 season, 36th among 98 qualified safeties. His PFF coverage grade of 67.3 ranked 31st among 98 qualified safeties. His run-defense grade of 69.3 ranked 56th at the position.  Expect a draft pick at FS.  Demani Richardson is a safety for the Carolina Panthers who earned a 71.5 overall PFF defensive grade n 29 plays.  Nothing to see here.  Isaiah Simmons is probably more special teams than defensive player.   Overall:  We are thin on defense.  No real depth at CB, S, and DE/NT.  However, we have 5 starters who are pro bowl level players (D. Brown, Lloyd, Jackson, Horn, and Phillips--and I might throw Scourton in on that pile for the sixth potential pro bowler).  We are weak at NT, and if Wharton does not step up, DE.  Funny, I see Edge as our strength (and we really don't have a sack artist) and I love our starting CBs.  Moehrig is making too much to be average.   Expect:  In the draft, I think we have to draft a DT.  Having done this, I am not sure that we go after a S when we have such glaring needs at other positions.  We could upgrade at nickel and give the CB room more depth.  OLB?  Wallace is decent depth, and he could start in a pinch.   DE is our biggest need.  The answer could be on the roster?            
×
×
  • Create New...