Can Sam Darnold play himself into becoming the 2023 starter?

[Cdparr7]

1 hour ago, ENC Pantherfan said:

I would still give a serious look at Robinson and Jefferson in the later 1st assuming we make the playoffs, but yes I would give Darnold maybe a 2 yr 35 mil 14 mil guarantee type deal.

I believe his projected market value for next year is 5.4 million per year. I could live with a 2yr 15 million deal with the first year guaranteed or something. 

[Catsfan69]

1 hour ago, Aussie Tank said:

Unless he can prove that he can put this team on his back and beat good sides by himself it will just be treading water having to pay him. If your gonna have a game manager your better off having them on a rookie contract so you can stack the rest of the side 

He's more than a game manager. 

Game managers are physically limited. 

Sam isn't 

[LinvilleGorge]

The only way I'm alright with it is if he's signed to a budget deal to keep the seat warm for a guy like Anthony Richardson. Im no way, shape, or form can you go forward thinking Sam Darnold is the long-term answer.

[JawnyBlaze]

I need to see him carry the offense to a win before I'm willing to give him any kind of significant deal or shot at starting next year.  He's been playing solid, but it's been mostly handing the ball off.  Without some kind of showcase game, I'd be ok bringing him back for backup money with the understanding that he's going to be the backup sooner or later to a rookie we're drafting.

[Catsfan69]

4 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

The only way I'm alright with it is if he's signed to a budget deal to keep the seat warm for a guy like Anthony Richardson. Im no way, shape, or form can you go forward thinking Sam Darnold is the long-term answer.

You are just wrong.

If Sam continues this upward trajectory with zero weapons you can feel good about him. And that would be the only way I would be ok with a gamble like Richardson. 

[LinvilleGorge]

3 minutes ago, Catsfan69 said:

You are just wrong.

If Sam continues this upward trajectory with zero weapons you can feel good about him. And that would be the only way I would be ok with a gamble like Richardson. 

Stop. Don't do this to yourself.

[Catsfan69]

Just now, JawnyBlaze said:

I need to see him carry the offense to a win before I'm willing to give him any kind of significant deal or shot at starting next year.  He's been playing solid, but it's been mostly handing the ball off.  Without some kind of showcase game, I'd be ok bringing him back for backup money with the understanding that he's going to be the backup sooner or later to a rookie we're drafting.

You know he has been getting us in scoring position every game.

If he throws us to the 10. And we run it in from there that's awesome.

[Catsfan69]

Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

Stop. Don't do this to yourself.

Until he has some kind of collapse I'm going to ride that train.

The Superbowl Train

[Brooklyn 3.0]

Of course he can. We don't draft a QB, Matt continues to not be ready, and PJ is PJ. Sam is your starter and we continue to be mediocre. That is a very real and scary possibility.

[LinvilleGorge]

The offensive game plan is literally to minimize the QB throwing beyond the LOS as much as we possibly can. Let's see us in a situation where we have to throw to compete. Like Stroud was in tonight. Then we'll find out if Darnold has truly developed. Our game plans show me that our coaches don't think he has.

[Aussie Tank]

12 minutes ago, Catsfan69 said:

He's more than a game manager. 

Game managers are physically limited. 

Sam isn't 

Sam has proven over his career that he is mentally limited 

[Catsfan69]

2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

The offensive game plan is literally to minimize the QB throwing beyond the LOS as much as we possibly can. Let's see us in a situation where we have to throw to compete. Like Stroud was in tonight. Then we'll find out if Darnold has truly developed. Our game plans show me that our coaches don't think he has.

You haven't even watched the games. He made several big throws when we had to have them last week. 

[Cdparr7]

It’s not totally inconceivable that Sam can become a long term starter. This is the best OL he has ever had and he is in a system that fits him. Plus he’s only 25.

 

However, you probably don’t want to bet on it. He needs a cheap deal and some competition. He has a long way to go before he makes people forget about his past. 

[Catsfan69]

3 minutes ago, Aussie Tank said:

Sam has proven over his career that he is mentally limited 

He's getting better. It's starting to click.