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Tepper admits to mistake in hiring Matt Rhule

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Personally I think it is all overblown.

Owners pick coaches, more times than not they are wrong, it's like drafting players.  If it was easy every team would have a good coach.

There is no perfect formula for finding the right coach.  He went for the "program building, team building, CEO type."  Personally, I'm not a big fan of college coaches for various reasons but he decided to go that route.  It's easy to second guess now but fact is he was on the NFL radar.

This time we are going the experienced HC, with offensive background route, no guarantee that works either.

The swings and misses are going to happen, you can't control that with 100% certainty, all you can control is how you handle the misses.

BTW, this same logic applies to whatever QB we draft if we do indeed draft one.

 

 

 

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The big red flag indicating the Panthers were going off the rails was when Tepper publicly called Marty Hurney a genius GM.  Of course, I don't believe he mentioned that pearl of wisdom until after his Rhule hire.  By that time, it was unfortunately too late for an emergency fan intervention.

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1 minute ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

The big red flag indicating the Panthers were going off the rails was when Tepper publicly called Marty Hurney a genius GM.  Of course, I don't recall he mentioned that pearl of wisdom until after his Rhule hire.  By that time, it was unfortunately too late for an emergency fan intervention.

Marty had a track record with his first rounders, and while he sucked at nearly every other aspect of GM'ing, hitting home runs/grand slams every single time (save for Otah) goes a long way to impressing owners and media

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1 minute ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

The big red flag indicating the Panthers were going off the rails was when Tepper publicly called Marty Hurney a genius GM.  Of course, I don't recall he mentioned that pearl of wisdom until after his Rhule hire.  By that time, it was unfortunately too late for an emergency fan intervention.

I remember him first calling Marty Hurney a great GM and then pulling back and saying something like 'well let's not go that far'.

Shortly after that was when he made his "one of the best evaluators of college talent in the NFL" comment.

He certainly has been a mess at times.

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1 minute ago, outlaw4 said:

Could we even call Rhule a CEO, though? I mean, he seemed to micromanage the wrong things, spouted a bunch of fluff, threw people under the bus and was grossly overpaid.

...oh, wait.

To this day I couldn't tell you what Matt Rhule brings to the table as a coach that made him such a hot commodity with some NFL owners.  I'm convinced the guy simply had a great press agent that snowed some of the less enlightened sports media talking heads and NFL owners.

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Just now, NanuqoftheNorth said:

To this day I couldn't tell you what Matt Rhule brings to the table as a coach that made him such a hot commodity with some NFL owners.  I'm convinced the guy simply had a great press agent that snowed some of the less enlightened sports media talking heads and NFL owners.

I know one of our guys here who has some friends inside as well as others have indicated that working under Rhule just left everybody depressed. The atmosphere inside the building was apparently terrible.

Hell, the team didn't even put out a media guide last year (the only team to not do so). I've wondered if that had something to do with Rhule wanting to control everything including what went out In that publication.

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19 minutes ago, AU-panther said:

Personally I think it is all overblown.

Owners pick coaches, more times than not they are wrong, it's like drafting players.  If it was easy every team would have a good coach.

There is no perfect formula for finding the right coach.  He went for the "program building, team building, CEO type."  Personally, I'm not a big fan of college coaches for various reasons but he decided to go that route.  It's easy to second guess now but fact is he was on the NFL radar.

This time we are going the experienced HC, with offensive background route, no guarantee that works either.

The swings and misses are going to happen, you can't control that with 100% certainty, all you can control is how you handle the misses.

BTW, this same logic applies to whatever QB we draft if we do indeed draft one.

 

 

 

People around here have been way overblowing it.  He picked the wrong guy the first time. So did Richardson, numerous times in fact. But for some reason Tepper is the whipping boy around here. All of a sudden he’s a “meddling owner” despite no evidence to support it. He fuged up his first coaching hire, no denying that. Let’s see how he does the second time. 

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1 minute ago, JawnyBlaze said:

People around here have been way overblowing it.  He picked the wrong guy the first time. So did Richardson, numerous times in fact. But for some reason Tepper is the whipping boy around here. All of a sudden he’s a “meddling owner” despite no evidence to support it. He fuged up his first coaching hire, no denying that. Let’s see how he does the second time. 

If anything it seems like he turned over way too much to Rhule those first two years, if rumors are true about letting Matt control social media, then people came to him and said this is toxic and he stepped in

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If anything it seems like he turned over way too much to Rhule those first two years, if rumors are true about letting Matt control social media, then people came to him and said this is toxic and he stepped in

Yea honestly he hasn’t meddled enough. His only mistakes so far have been letting Hurney and Rivera stay too long then hiring Rhule. He should have “meddled” immediately and fired Hurney and Rivera, then found his GM and collaborate on finding a HC. We could have skipped the whole Rhule disaster if he had exercised less patience and moved the rebuilding process up a couple years. 

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