Carr Watch

[TLGPanthersFan]

2 minutes ago, frankw said:

Jones is the better QB.

 

I think they are both equal. Meaning they both have problems that negatively impact the teams chance for success.

Jones, he needs Barkley to succeed. 

Carr, he is a QB from another age of the NFL. 
 

[Mr. Scot]

4 minutes ago, TLGPanthersFan said:

Maybe but Carr’s ceiling is Cousins Vikings. I don’t want to be Cousins Vikings, and IMO, Cousins is better than Carr. 
 

Car has fumbling problems. 
He takes too many sacks and is a statue in the pocket. 
He doesn’t go off script. At. All. 
He throws interceptions at the worst possible time. He has bad-day-to-have-a-bad-game syndrome. 
 

If Panthers get him they have to realize they are not getting a QB that will win them a Super Bowl. 
But maybe the Panthers FO only cares about getting to the Playoffs. 

Word was that McDaniels put some heavy shackles on Carr last season.

I don't know if you can definitively say what Carr is or isn't yet given that he's been stuck with a sh-tty organization and lousy coaching for pretty much his entire career.

The guys who run the team now are much more qualified than me to make that decision so I'll trust what they say.

Edited February 28, 2023 by Mr. Scot

[TLGPanthersFan]

5 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Word was that McDaniels put some heavy shackles on Carr last season.

I don't know if you can definitively say what Carr is or isn't yet given that he's been stuck with a sh-tty organization and lousy coaching for pretty much his entire career.

The guys who run the team now are much more qualified than me to make that decision so I'll trust what they say.

I don’t see how McDaniels shackled Carr since most of the stuff I have seen people have against Carr were complaints before McDaniels was hired. 
 

[Fenrir]

6 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Word was that McDaniels put some heavy shackles on Carr last season.

I don't know if you can definitively say what Carr is or isn't yet given that he's been stuck with a sh-tty organization and lousy coaching for pretty much his entire career.

The guys who run the team now are much more qualified than me to make that decision so I'll trust what they say.

This is along my line of thinking as well.

The Raiders have been a dumpster fire organization for his entire career there. Mayock was a horrendous GM and retread Gruden was a disaster, along with Del Rio prior. They have severely lacked talent and have not been able to build through the draft.

If our current staff signs off on him, it's going to be difficult for me to object. Especially given the sheer amount of championship pedigree and coaching knowledge we have assembled... 

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, TLGPanthersFan said:

I don’t see how McDaniels shackled Carr since most of the stuff I have seen people have against Carr were complaints before McDaniels was hired. 
 

Forbid him from calling audibles, for one.

And before McDaniels was Gruden, so...

[mrcompletely11]

58 minutes ago, Fenrir said:

This is along my line of thinking as well.

The Raiders have been a dumpster fire organization for his entire career there. Mayock was a horrendous GM and retread Gruden was a disaster, along with Del Rio prior. They have severely lacked talent and have not been able to build through the draft.

If our current staff signs off on him, it's going to be difficult for me to object. Especially given the sheer amount of championship pedigree and coaching knowledge we have assembled... 

You willing to bet a 3 year contract on that line if thinking?

[LinvilleGorge]

I've said it multiple times. I'd prefer draft, but I won't holler if it's Carr. I think much of this fanbase has PTSD from watching us aquire 3rd tier vet QBs and them predictably failing. We've tried for better vet QBs but they didn't want to play for Rhule. Carr is a better vet QB.

[LinvilleGorge]

9 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

That is why so many are against it.

Yeah he's better than what we had, but he's still in that tier of QB's that are good but not good enough.

 

Then you look at our roster and a mid tier QB and you realize the team wouldn't make it very far in the playoffs. 

 

Carr had more weapons in Vegas than he will have here. We would have to add a lot more around him to even think about making a run. Im not a hater im just being real.

 

 

If I'm the Panthers and I'm going to be completely honest with Carr and tell him that if the right guy is there at #9 we're still drafting him. Sure, the plan is to commit to him and we don't plan on the right guy being there at #9 but wild things happen and we can't tell you that there's zero chance we're not drafting a QB at #9. So know this before putting ink to paper so there's no hard feelings in a couple months.

[frankw]

There is no such thing as a 100 million dollar bridge quarterback. He's either your guy the next 3-4 years minimum or you go in another direction.

[Mr. Scot]

7 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

If I'm the Panthers and I'm going to be completely honest with Carr and tell him that if the right guy is there at #9 we're still drafting him. Sure, the plan is to commit to him and we don't plan on the right guy being there at #9 but wild things happen and we can't tell you that there's zero chance we're not drafting a QB at #9. So know this before putting ink to paper so there's no hard feelings in a couple months.

I'd agree.

And honestly, the staff we've got right now don't really seem like the type to blow smoke up anybody's ass, so I expect That's what'll happen.

[Jon Snow]

30 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I've said it multiple times. I'd prefer draft, but I won't holler if it's Carr. I think much of this fanbase has PTSD from watching us aquire 3rd tier vet QBs and them predictably failing. We've tried for better vet QBs but they didn't want to play for Rhule. Carr is a better vet QB.

At least he used to be.  As long as the guaranteed money is low I would not worry about it.  The team wouldn't make that decision until after the draft anyway. 

Edited February 28, 2023 by Jon Snow

[Panthering]

Carr about to walk into that meeting with a few Bible verses prepared and Reich is going to fall over himself to get him into the building ha! I actually wouldn't be that upset if he's brought up but I much, much prefer going to the NFL draft and trading up for our guy.

[Bear Hands]

If we land him, I could see a scenario where we still pick up a QB in April but more like Haener in R3-4.  

I saw someone joking about that being two Fresno Staters but I can see that as a legit possibility IF Carr happens.  Someone like Jake would be perfect to have behind DC.  I'm not discarding Corral though-- he'll be here to compete for that backup spot. 

 

  

[Bear Hands]

Just now, CamWhoaaCam said:

QB is off the board if we sign Carr. You have to put weapons around him. He's not a QB who can carry a weak offense like Rodgers/Lamar.

 

#9 pick has to be a WR

Two 2nd round picks need to be a TE/RB

I didn't say otherwise?