David Newton's tweet deserves own thread

[top dawg]

Huddlers seem to be zeroing in on the David Carr or Sam Darnold parts of David Newton's tweet, but neither one bothers me. It's always been about value as far as I'm concerned. 

David Tepper emphasized that we needed to be smarter with our resources. I don't believe that we're going to win any Carr battle based on that alone, and we may not end up with Darnold if the market gets too stupid, but it's all about the money, and I could see Darnold being a better value than Carr in their respective roles (one a starter, and one a bridge starter or legit backup). 

All that being said, we are obviously surveying the scrap heap for possible treasure---you know, the "one man's thrash thing, giving serious thought to the draft prospects of course, and keeping Matt Corral in our hearts and minds. 

Some may not like the tweet, and hope that Newton is full of poo, but it's actually music to my ears. 

 

And one more thing: Gardner Minshew, come on down!

[frankw]

Derek Carr or Sam Darnold...

How about neither.

[Brooklyn 3.0]

6 minutes ago, frankw said:

Derek Carr or Sam Darnold...

How about neither.

I bet it's Darnold and a drafted AR lol. We can give one another a depressed look.

[Mr. Scot]

18 minutes ago, top dawg said:

David Newton's tweet deserves own thread

No it doesn't 

[CamWhoaaCam]

I rather have Darnold at 15mil than Carr at 35mil

 

To be honest Darnold/Rookie QB doesn't sound bad. The more the days past the more I think AR is the guy they are targeting. They want to develop a QB with his skillset.

 

Im not mad at it.

[AggieLean]

Thanks for posting this, OP. 
 

The part about going after mid-level QB free agents leaves me cautiously optimistic. Hopefully it means Carr won’t be coming here, and although I don’t want Darnold back at all, if it comes with a rookie QB drafted in the 1st, I’ll deal with it

[LinvilleGorge]

The ONLY way a mid-level vet QB makes any sense is if we're drafting one high. Want to splash cold water on the renewed fan optimism from the hiring of this coaching staff? Go into next year with another Teddy/Darnold/Mayfield caliber vet QB penciled in at starter.

[Mr. Scot]

On the flipside...

 

[PantherFanInPhilly]

C'mon Tep-Dawg...give the fans what they want...Sammy D 5 year contract!!!  Don't make us beg!!

[top dawg]

7 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

On the flipside...

 

I haven't had time to listen to the presser, but Rimmer sounds like he's purely speculating.

Excerpts here:https://www.panthers.com/news/live-updates-from-wednesday-action-at-the-nfl-combine-2023

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, top dawg said:

I haven't had time to listen to the presser, but Rimmer sounds like he's purely speculating.

He is, but that's kinda the point.

Newton's not a reliable source because he has a tendency to interpret things incorrectly.

I never go by what Newton says unless it's corroborated by others.

[LinvilleGorge]

The part that make me nervous is the "5 year window" talk. I like Derek Carr. I really do. I wouldn't mind signing him. But I don't want to sign Derek Carr to massive 5 year contract with huge guarantees.

 

[w280sax]

5 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

The part that make me nervous is the "5 year window" talk. I like Derek Carr. I really do. I wouldn't mind signing him. But I don't want to sign Derek Carr to massive 5 year contract with huge guarantees.

 

I don't think we end up with him.  But I do suspect someone is going to give him exactly that.  Too many desperate, qb needy teams.  (Including us obviously)

[Mr. Scot]

8 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

The part that make me nervous is the "5 year window" talk. I like Derek Carr. I really do. I wouldn't mind signing him. But I don't want to sign Derek Carr to massive 5 year contract with huge guarantees.

I can tell you what I got out of the presser...

1) Both Frank Reich and Scott Fitterer like David Carr. Between the two, Reich sounded more eager and effusive but that's kinda to be expected since it's not his job to worry about what he's getting paid.

2) Fitterer might have tipped his hand a little bit on one thing: If They did sign Derek Carr, they're probably not going to use their first round pick on a quarterback. If they draft a player, the vet would likely be a bridge type.

3) Perhaps most important, those decisions haven't been made yet, but they're being discussed. It could end up going either way.

Edited March 1, 2023 by Mr. Scot