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Natalie Miller (aka Verge): per her sources, Panthers moved up to #1 to take Bryce Young


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10 hours ago, ForJimmy said:

Corral was #2 at Ole Miss.  He had to change numbers because DJ already had #2 here.  I'm not saying it's not Young, but Corral's number has nothing to do with it.

I'm just saying trading DJ, allowed Corral to take #2 so Young could get #9. 

Because keeping Shaq #7 means CJ would have to choose a new number.

I still think Corral can be groom to be DA to Cam for Young.

 

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2 hours ago, Buckeye Homer said:

If that's true it's going to be a historic mistake and the Texans are going to be the greatest beneficiary.  

And it does not explain why the Panthers' owners and 9 scouts and coaches are going to Columbus. 

Too much talking going on right now--people need to pay attention.  They have over 1 month to make a decision.

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No games. Nobody believes it anyway. This franchise and it's weak gamesmanship trying to be "ahead" or deceptive is laughable.

If you are not good at misdirection, misinformation and disinformation maybe your should try a deliberate and honest approach because your constant attempts to "fool" or remake the wheel is futile.

Be honest. Tell the world you love him and he's your #1.

 

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Just now, rippadonn said:

No games. Nobody believes it anyway. This franchise and it's weak gamesmanship trying to be "ahead" or deceptive is laughable.

If you are not good at misdirection, misinformation and disinformation maybe your should try a deliberate and honest approach because your constant attempts to "fool" or remake the wheel is futile.

Be honest. Tell the world you love him and he's your #1.

 

Psssst... Everyone already knows

 

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You are going to ruin it…

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13 hours ago, csx said:

He arguably has elite accuracy. Pretty much every single analysis says good but not elite arm strength..

 

I'm an not knocking Stroud. He is my preference. I'm just pointing out that the poster seemed to be exaggerating Stroud beyond what anybody else is saying. 6'3 is good height. It's not ideal. 

That’s why you gotta watch for yourself. Those analyses are mostly self parroting circle jerks.  At the combine in the velocity measurement he threw equal to Levis and 1 mph less Richardson, the guys with the “great” arms.  He also threw just as deep as Richardson in the deep drill. “Elite” might be a slight stretch for him, but he’s way better than “good”.  Watching his games reinforces that, not only deep balls but driving the mid throws when necessary. Receivers don’t have to wait on his passes. 

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Agree on the height though, “ideal” means best or perfect. That would be more like 6’5 or 6. 6’3 is “good”
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