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Official NFL 2023 Draft Discussion

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40 minutes ago, carpanfan96 said:

Espn had him 5th wr and 37th overall 

Fox had him 70th overall and 6th wr

Draft profile had him as a 2nd round pick

Athlon had him as a 2nd/3rd pick

Walter as a 2nd/3rd round pick

 

There's another one or two that had him the 30-40 range I'm trying to find. 

 

Few outliers like cbs and mock draft database. 

That's media wise and most were way off this year. A few did really well compared to everyone else but they have or had actual scouts help them with their boards. 

 

Scouting wise, maybe 15 players with first round GRADES. Tons with 2/3 grades and this class is varied and more volatile from team to team then most recent drafts. 

 

I was looking at mock draft database consensus big board that gathers data from the other big boards to make a consensus board. I thought you were looking at a consensus board too that’s why I asked because I didn’t know why it would be so different.

 

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