Canes vs Panthers ECF Game 4

[Panthers Fan 69]

21 minutes ago, MillionDollarCam said:

 

Rod needs to hit them with that Herb Brooks energy tonight.

Herb Brooks energy is as strong as big dick energy. Time to channel it. 

[Harbingers]

Alright. I’m feeling tonight. Here we go boys. The canes are going to go out there and win despite the refs ample fuguppery. It’s written it shall happen. 
 

Also I’d like to point out @Zod nice job having the censor catch fuguppery. Really thought I could slip that one by. 
 

Edited May 24, 2023 by Harbingers

[Harbingers]

Also I still think burns One

Chucky tonight. So we have factor in not having him. 

[Harbingers]

Rod needs to unleash the god damn beast. That’s the biggest part of his game plan/coaching strategy. Unleash the fuging beast dude, they will deliver. I know you have been saving for the SC but now is the time. 

[Harbingers]

Rod if you are out there. fug your game plan. Unleash the beast for the first time in 5 years and just let it happen. 

[backINblack28]

Bob's save percentage is 98.1 right now. that's literally just like completely unprecedented even for a younger Quick during the Kings run.  Sometimes, your team losing doesn't warrant criticism of them. This is one of those times.

Rod's style gets scoring chances and possession from lesser talented forwards.  We cannot sit here and have all these receipts about well Svech/Patches gone we'll be lucky to make it out of the first round and now we're blaming Rod and Waddell for running into a historically unprecedented goaltending run.  Frustration is fair.  But finishing 3rd/4th in the league without two 40 goal scorers is an outright success no matter what, and we gave up ZERO at TDL and outlasted EVERY team that did, so that criticism is objectively completely dead. You can't sit here and say 'what if Timo Meier?" he is literally not playing hockey right now. That's the what if. 

If we win tonight, we will have done something the franchise hasn't done in 17 years. Again. Outright success/eclipses Waddell and Rod's run as GM/Coach.  Frustration is warranted as it sucks for every team except 1, maybe 2 in the end (if you're like a Seattle or us with injuries and a finals trip and loss is an outright win). But there's got to be some objectivity here.  And if we lost Rod as a coach my expectations and happiness level with this franchise would go in the toilet. We fired Paul Maurice twice and he is not better than Rod.  So that he is beating him we should all be able to objectively write off to bad puck luck in combo with 98.1 asinine historical performance at least somewhat. If you want to throw in the 2 60 point dudes missing that's fine but IMO we've played plenty well to win EVERY single game vs. FLA and have outplayed them both totally in the series and outplayed them in each individual game overall.  Idk what more you ask for than that.  

Because of this---given Barkov doesn't play or misses time--he is a HUGE part of shutting stuff down for them AND scoring--for me, regardless...comeback starts tonight. LFG 

Edited May 24, 2023 by backINblack28

[DavidEng]

 

[backINblack28]

Barkov will play per Maurice

[DavidEng]

Just now, backINblack28 said:

Barkov will play per Maurice

Fine with me, if we win panther fans can’t use that as an excuse.

[SZ James (banned)]

98% save rate absolutely IS our fault wdym 

[Stumpy]

18 minutes ago, SZ James (banned) said:

98% save rate absolutely IS our fault wdym 

This is objectively true!

Most people don't realize that before the series, Waddell contacted the Wachowski sisters to get a few of those handy dandy red pills. Then Dundon and Wads snuck into the Panthers facility and spiked Bob's water bottles. They had just rewatched Matrix 4 and thought if they could get Bob to slip into bullet-time then he would dodge all the pucks coming at him and we could win each game by a 10 goal margin.

Unfortunately, it turned out that Bob was actually an anagram for The Obb and he was the messaih that zion was promised all along. Instead of dodging the pucks in bullet-time, he learned to stop them in their tracks.

I don't know wtf Wads was thinking, really!

fuging cheap ass watch ruined our only chance to ever win a cup!

 

[backINblack28]

1 hour ago, SZ James (banned) said:

98% save rate absolutely IS our fault wdym 

Bobrovsky has saved 19.5 goals above expected in this playoffs.  He has given up 30 and an NHL goaltender playing the same games would give up 49.  He is literally giving up 1.5 goals less than expected per game. The next closest goals saved above average is Shesterkin with 8.8 (Fred with 6.8 is third which is an extremely good stat)  

after first two rounds:

• Vegas Golden Knights: 3.73 goals per game
• Carolina Hurricanes: 3.64 goals per game
• Dallas Stars: 3.62 goals per game
• Florida Panthers: 3.33 goals per game

so yeah, no. Literally, goals expected factors in the quality of our chances, so it nullifies the argument that we're not generating high quality chances--not sure who could argue that who has watched 3 games but objectively and statistically it's wrong on multiple levels.

"By a different measure, evolving-hockey.com had Bobrovsky saving another 2.38 goals above expected in his shutout win on Monday — a night where the Hurricanes outshot the Panthers 32-17 and dominated in all the possession categories, including nearly 78 percent of the expected goals share at 5-on-5, per naturalstattrick.com."

 

The bruins had a 61 goal scorer/113 point scorer. They were quite literally the best team statistically of all time. They had 8 50 point scorers.  Bobrovsky did the same to them. If you want to be frustrated, be mad. Saying the Canes aren't doing enough is just the same as saying you either don't watch or can't rightly comprehend hockey.

 

"On Monday, Bobrovsky exceeded Andrei Vasilevskiy's performance in the 2021 playoffs when he won his second Stanley Cup (17.33 GSAx). And for the entire period of Evolving Hockey's data, which goes back to the 2007-08 season, there's only one goalie with a higher number. Last year, Shesterkin hit 23.21 GSAx in 20 games."

this, assuming we don't come back, means that he has plenty of time to put together the best statistical playoffs for a goaltender since we have been tracking such stats. he already has the most saves to this point, eclipsing a record that has stood since 1960.  Saying this is the canes fault is truly mind boggling.  We have had our problems in the past scoring and generating high leverage chances.  To attribute that to this team is just outright ignoring what's going on. If you want to quantify something that is a trend you should also be willing to adapt when that trend is openly bucked and we've been doing an amazing job of scoring in the playoffs with two very dangerous scoring forwards (3 for a decent majority of playoffs) unavailable.

 

It's not our fault. That's what I mean.

[DavidEng]

1 hour ago, backINblack28 said:

Bobrovsky has saved 19.5 goals above expected in this playoffs.  He has given up 30 and an NHL goaltender playing the same games would give up 49.  He is literally giving up 1.5 goals less than expected per game. The next closest goals saved above average is Shesterkin with 8.8 (Fred with 6.8 is third which is an extremely good stat)  

after first two rounds:

• Vegas Golden Knights: 3.73 goals per game
• Carolina Hurricanes: 3.64 goals per game
• Dallas Stars: 3.62 goals per game
• Florida Panthers: 3.33 goals per game

so yeah, no. Literally, goals expected factors in the quality of our chances, so it nullifies the argument that we're not generating high quality chances--not sure who could argue that who has watched 3 games but objectively and statistically it's wrong on multiple levels.

"By a different measure, evolving-hockey.com had Bobrovsky saving another 2.38 goals above expected in his shutout win on Monday — a night where the Hurricanes outshot the Panthers 32-17 and dominated in all the possession categories, including nearly 78 percent of the expected goals share at 5-on-5, per naturalstattrick.com."

 

The bruins had a 61 goal scorer/113 point scorer. They were quite literally the best team statistically of all time. They had 8 50 point scorers.  Bobrovsky did the same to them. If you want to be frustrated, be mad. Saying the Canes aren't doing enough is just the same as saying you either don't watch or can't rightly comprehend hockey.

 

"On Monday, Bobrovsky exceeded Andrei Vasilevskiy's performance in the 2021 playoffs when he won his second Stanley Cup (17.33 GSAx). And for the entire period of Evolving Hockey's data, which goes back to the 2007-08 season, there's only one goalie with a higher number. Last year, Shesterkin hit 23.21 GSAx in 20 games."

this, assuming we don't come back, means that he has plenty of time to put together the best statistical playoffs for a goaltender since we have been tracking such stats. he already has the most saves to this point, eclipsing a record that has stood since 1960.  Saying this is the canes fault is truly mind boggling.  We have had our problems in the past scoring and generating high leverage chances.  To attribute that to this team is just outright ignoring what's going on. If you want to quantify something that is a trend you should also be willing to adapt when that trend is openly bucked and we've been doing an amazing job of scoring in the playoffs with two very dangerous scoring forwards (3 for a decent majority of playoffs) unavailable.

 

It's not our fault. That's what I mean.

Conversely then, it will be Bobs fault if we win tonight? haha

If. we win I’m gonna credit the Canes.

[carpanfan96]

LFGC!!!! Let's get the first win tonight.