Will Burns sign an extension before Week 1?

[PappyMay]

If he doesn’t sign an extension got to imagine he will get tagged. I’m just going to enjoy him the next two years and hope for the best.  Wouldn’t be shocked at all if averages a sack a game in this new scheme. 

[jayboogieman]

4 hours ago, ForJimmy said:

Once we turned down that Rams deal we all but told Burns he will be resigned/extended and it will be for a large amount of money.  I would imagine we had some idea of what he was wanting before we turned down an offer like that.

I don't know. It would be classic Panthers to turn down the Rams deal while having zero idea what Burns would want money wise.

[ForJimmy]

26 minutes ago, jayboogieman said:

I don't know. It would be classic Panthers to turn down the Rams deal while having zero idea what Burns would want money wise.

[jayboogieman]

19 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

 

[ForJimmy]

29 minutes ago, jayboogieman said:

 

[jayboogieman]

51 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

[tukafan21]

To be honest, I think people are putting WAY too much into us being a base 3-4 defense.

When in reality, I'm guessing we end up lining up in an actual 3-4 in probably 25-30% of snaps.

Most teams run 3 WR sets now in a majority of their snaps, in addition to us having Chinn who is likely going to be considered a DB when he's on the field instead of a LB and have us more in a 3-3-5 most of the time with that 3rd LB being Burns who is really just rushing the passer anyways.  90% of the time (if not even more) when Burns lines up as an OLB, he'll be rushing the passer just as he would be if he was a 4-3 DE.

I don't think he's waiting on Bosa because he knows he won't get that much anyways, I just don't think he's in a rush to sign a deal because he knows if he has a monster season and hits FA, we'll then have to make him the highest paid defensive player as someone else on the market would do it to get him.  

Which is why to me, we need to get deal done before the season starts, I think he's in for a 15+ sack season and if he's not locked up, we'll have to franchise him and/or give him a much bigger contract than whatever he's asking for right now.

Edited August 29, 2023 by tukafan21

[TylerDurden]

8 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

To be honest, I think people are putting WAY too much into us being a base 3-4 defense.

When in reality, I'm guessing we end up lining up in an actual 3-4 in probably 25-30% of snaps.

Most teams run 3 WR sets now in a majority of their snaps, in addition to us having Chinn who is likely going to be considered a DB when he's on the field instead of a LB and have us more in a 3-3-5 most of the time with that 3rd LB being Burns who is really just rushing the passer anyways.  90% of the time (if not even more) when Burns lines up as an OLB, he'll be rushing the passer just as he would be if he was a 4-3 DE.

I don't think he's waiting on Bosa because he knows he won't get that much anyways, I just don't think he's in a rush to sign a deal because he knows if he has a monster season and hits FA, we'll then have to make him the highest paid defensive player as someone else on the market would do it to get him.  

Which is why to me, we need to get deal done before the season starts, I think he's in for a 15+ sack season and if he's not locked up, we'll have to franchise him and/or give him a much bigger contract than whatever he's asking for right now.

This is why I have always said, I would much rather pay a little extra going into the final contract year than wait for it to play out.  Odds are the market continues to rise the following year and what you overpaid actually settles to an acceptable amount compared to where the avg salary of the top guys adjusts to that following year.  So even if they have a subpar year but they're a good player, it's a good deal.  I don't expect a drop-off from Burns, as I think he's on the rise, regardless...  but if we wait?  It's always gonna cost more.  Always has.

[carpanfan96]

He's not going to sign til Bosa does in SF. Burns agent will wait to get the most he can. That deal isn't close but should be signed week 1. 

[Ricky Prickles]

7 hours ago, CRA said:

if you are the Carolina Panthers, would you really want to give him a massive deal before you have seen him play a down in the new 3-4 scheme? 

 

This is my line of thinking as well

[Santee_Panther]

Players don’t have a ton of leverage in this situation. He’s under contract for this season ($16mil). If he doesn’t play, he doesn’t get paid. Plus the Panthers can tag him for two seasons beyond this year. He wants an extension (which will come with a big signing bonus). 
 

His career earnings thus far are $13.5 mil over four years. Is he going to not get paid $1mil each game he sits out? Not likely. 
 

On the one hand, he’s probably glad Bosa is about to reset the market. But, on the other, he’s probably bummed that he has to wait for Bosa. 

[TheCasillas]

4 hours ago, jayboogieman said:

I don't know. It would be classic Panthers to turn down the Rams deal while having zero idea what Burns would want money wise.

Have the panthers as a franchise ever done anything like that before?

[mrcompletely11]

10 hours ago, TheCasillas said:

Have the panthers as a franchise ever done anything like that before?

Letting peppers just walk is kindof comparable. 

[TheCasillas]

5 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Letting peppers just walk is kindof comparable. 

thats not what happened at all... Peppers wanted to leave bc Jerry Richardson try to force him to be a vocal leader on the team. Peppers didnt want to be that person. He told us he wasnt going to extend with us the year before his contract expired. We franchise tagged in hopes that two years (last year of contract + tag) would be enough time to change his mind.

 

We did everything we could to keep him from walking.

 

 

note: I have way more on this story, but im not gonna put it on blast. I hung out with Julius at Oak Room when he played for the Bears. He was an open book about it and it wasnt out of malice either that he left.

Edited August 29, 2023 by TheCasillas