Burns is back in pads at practice

[pantherclaw]

2 hours ago, therealmjl said:

I mean you interpret it how you want. He's isolated himself from the team during the stretching period, spent a good portion of the practice in the medical tent getting wrapped up, and didn't participate in any team activities. 

 

 

You call it practicing, I call it avoiding a fine.

 

Yet, Houston is also doing the same thing. Nobody gives a fug what he's doing.

[pantherclaw]

2 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

If the NFLPA actually worked to represent ALL of the players they'd be pushing for some type of max contract stipulation.

A long as time ago. 

[Carl Spackler]

1 hour ago, Billy Love said:

1 hour ago, mrcompletely11 said:

plus everette brown wasnt a top 10 pick

what if he was acquired for a first-round pick

[pantherclaw]

1 hour ago, Billy Love said:

Yes, exactly. But Under rookie contract and get 2 pass rushers

If only striking gold on draft picks was that consistent.  

[Carl Spackler]

37 minutes ago, MasterAwesome said:

Sure...but if you constantly view draft picks through the lens of "worst case scenario", then we just traded up to first overall to draft JaMarcus Russell.  And there's no point in even retaining first round picks, we might as well trade them every year for known commodities.  But the reality is, high draft picks are among the most valuable assets you can have in the NFL, and there's a reason for that.

Justifying trading your best players on the confidence that you'll hit on all the picks you receive and replace their production is not the way most championship teams are constructed.

[pantherclaw]

1 hour ago, mrcompletely11 said:

nah they got one for cheaper in FA

 

Would you trade Burns if it was guaranteed you would have back to back top 10 picks?

No guarantee exists. Stop with the hyper bull. 

[JawnyBlaze]

[shaqattaq]

2 hours ago, Ricky Prickles said:

Yeah thats high as can be. I dont even think Bosa will get that

well....

[therealmjl]

5 minutes ago, JawnyBlaze said:

Nice

[Mr. Scot]

27 minutes ago, therealmjl said:

If by the "actual practice drills" you mean individual non-contact drills - sure.

 

7 minutes ago, JawnyBlaze said:

 

[therealmjl]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

 

 

That was just posted. I’m glad to see it.

[t96]

1 hour ago, tukafan21 said:

I think the whole tier system is also a fallacy

Elite players don't grow on trees, this isn't like an accountant, where if the person you want is asking for too much money, you can easily pass on him and go out and get someone equally as good for less money.  You don't pay a player because of what they're worth, you pay a player because of what they're worth to another team because you have to beat them out on contract offers.

If Burns were an unrestricted FA right now, he'd easily get a contract over $25 million and probably pushing $30, because another team in need of pass rushing would give it to him as you have to overpay to get players of his talent.

So in essence, you're never paying the player for what they're worth, you're paying what it takes to keep the player from going to another team, and once you look at it like that, you can't look at players in terms of tiers of elite status or even what others have been paid.

You can see the same thing in reverse right now for RB's.  There were a ton of RBs on the market this year, which is why they struggled to get good contracts, because if a team passed on an RB, there were a plethora of other options out there, which isn't the case with top end pass rushers.

lol you pay a player what they are worth to your team relative to how else you can spend the $, you can't be influenced by the market if it doesn't make sense within the team's internal cap structure and allocation. There are so many factors and moving pieces, if you don't pay Burns you don't need to replace him with another elite pass rusher, in a cap league you just need to utilize that cap in a way that impacts the team winning more than keeping Burns would at whatever that cap hit would be. Not every super bowl winning team has an individual elite pass rusher, and not many have 1 that is among the highest paid defensive players. Look at the Chiefs not caving to Chris Jones' demands and look at the Patriots letting Chandler Jones go. And Burns isn't even their caliber of player. You have to be prepared to let players go and be smart with contracts. The teams who continuously overpay in free agency generally do not have success.

[GRWatcher]

[Ricky Prickles]

19 hours ago, shaqattaq said:

well....

And........he did. Yikes