Bryce Young hot take

[LinvilleGorge]

3 minutes ago, BamaFan said:

All you have to do is find a way for the defense to play prevent the whole game and he’ll be just fine LOL

It was pretty wild how people saw that final drive as being so promising when all we did was throw check downs because the Saints were playing soft zone coverage to avoid giving up a quick score. I thought it was pretty chicken poo of them given how dominant their D had been but they were literally inviting the check down to be thrown.

[WhoKnows]

2 minutes ago, frankw said:

I hear ya. I'm just trying to think about possibly salvaging the trade package we gave up.

At the end of the day as a fan I am just not sure we will ever see consistent success under this ownership. Hell we can't even get one winning season. But that's where the buck stops. It's been one trainwreck to the next.

Yeah, this era isn’t starting off well for coach, GM or QB. It’s hard to be a fan when this is what you get from a QB and staff that should have been able to step right in. Young was making OL calls and was processing way more than we could fee him. Reich has already been a head coach and has a supposed great staff. Why are we being told that we should have lowered expectations?

I wonder where that Gerry guy is. He might need some help after the first two games.

I just want to find another Cam, a QB who can win games and has a ceiling to win it all and it would be nice if we do when we also have a quality coach and GM. Other teams get it, so why can’t we? We only got Cam and he almost got it done anyway.

[frankw]

4 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

ellis has been neutered, it sucks but I get it

I like Ellis but we don't need more mindless drones parroting the Panthers front office and the Tepper's.

[LinvilleGorge]

7 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

I was nervous after seeing his arm talent last game, I really didnt think it was that bad until week 1 and now after last night I am not sure how they are going to make this work.

Screens, drags, and wide ass open. That's about the only throws I'm seeing that Bryce is going to be able to make consistently at this level. Yeah, it's seriously concerning. Better find some Tyreek Hills and Justin Jeffersons.

[Harbingers]

4 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

It was pretty wild how people saw that final drive as being so promising when all we did was throw check downs because the Saints were playing soft zone coverage to avoid giving up a quick score. I thought it was pretty chicken poo of them given how dominant their D had been but they were literally inviting the check down to be thrown.

This. Like the fug, it was garbage time run out the clock play and we didn’t execute that properly. We should have had at least 40 seconds more on the clock. 

[frankw]

Just now, WhoKnows said:

Yeah, this era isn’t starting off well for coach, GM or QB. It’s hard to be a fan when this is what you get from a QB and staff that should have been able to step right in. Young was making OL calls and was processing way more than we could fee him. Reich has already been a head coach and has a supposed great staff. Why are we being told that we should have lowered expectations?

I wonder where that Gerry guy is. He might need some help after the first two games.

I just want to find another Cam, a QB who can win games and has a ceiling to win it all and it would be nice if we do when we also have a quality coach and GM. Other teams get it, so why can’t we? We only got Cam and he almost got it done anyway.

Reich looks to be the offensive equivalent of Ron Rivera.

We won't see Gerry Green (formerly known as iamhubby1) until we get a win and he'll act like he's been here all along and not on a milk carton when it happens

I've let the Cam thing go. He was once in a generation. The Colts tried to draft a QB and use him the same way it didn't even last two games. We won't see another Cam for a very long time. It's best to turn the page and not live in the past.

[Harbingers]

5 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Screens, drags, and wide ass open. That's about the only throws I'm seeing that Bryce is going to be able to make consistently at this level. Yeah, it's seriously concerning. Better find some Tyreek Hills and Justin Jeffersons.

Nah man, even elite talent can be shut down.

I would much much rather us build a whole team of good players, than a team of 2-3 great players and garbage around them. 

Edited September 19, 2023 by Harbingers

[mrcompletely11]

Just now, frankw said:

I like Ellis but we don't need more mindless drones parroting the Panthers front office and the Tepper's.

IMO he made his bones and followers being critical, fair but critical about the panthers, players and staff.  He would have some good rants on his podcast and twitter feed but go back and see when he announced his credentialing and you see a different tone.  I get it but its not a good look.

 

Saying bryce played at a high level last night is exhibit a and preaching patience feels a lot like boot licking to me

[Moonraker]

Let's just face reality and realize that outside of 2 seasons where we had a lot of talent and lived up to it (until the last game), this has always been a mediocre at best franchise. Most teams in the NFL really aren't very good. We had a window for about 5 years and we squandered it. We'll be lucky to find ourselves in a similar situation over the next decade.

 

We could be Chargers fans. Loaded with talent and a great QB, but somehow incapable of winning.

[MechaZain]

6 minutes ago, frankw said:

Brother if we traded all that we did and what could very well end up being a top 5 pick next year for a game manager or system QB... ohh wee mayne.

I’m just saying that for lack of a better term. It’s only a bad thing if he ends up more like Bridgewater than Brees.

[frankw]

Just now, MechaZain said:

I’m just saying that for lack of a better term. It’s only a bad thing if he ends up more like Bridgewater than Brees.

I think Young has the right mental make up to become a starter in this league. But the physical limitations that were often talked about pre-draft but shouted down by people who latched onto him by leading with their emotion are going to be very challenging to overcome. I know we've disagreed on different things over the course of Panthers fandom. But I hope you can agree there's a legitimate level of concern there. I mean we really took our #1 pick off the field multiple times in favor of Andy Dalton to move the sticks in short yardage. If we weren't Panthers fans we would be laughing our asses off.

[LinvilleGorge]

4 minutes ago, Harbingers said:

Nah man, even elite talent can be shut down.

I would much much rather us build a whole team of good players, than a team of 2-3 great players and garbage around them. 

I'm just saying we're going to have to find receivers that can get wide ass open to make this work.

Everything seems broken right now. We can't throw so we want to run heavier formations to run the ball better but then when we try to pass out of those formations there's too much traffic in front of Bryce for him to see the field. 

[WhoKnows]

8 minutes ago, frankw said:

Reich looks to be the offensive equivalent of Ron Rivera.

We won't see Gerry Green (formerly known as iamhubby1) until we get a win and he'll act like he's been here all along and not on a milk carton when it happens

I've let the Cam thing go. He was once in a generation. The Colts tried to draft a QB and use him the same way it didn't even last two games. We won't see another Cam for a very long time. It's best to turn the page and not live in the past.

Not a Cam exactly. Herbert or Lawrence or Burrow or Mahomes or Allen or Hurts would be fine as well. I just meant a QB with enough upside that they could play well enough to win it all. I don’t look at Young and say yep, he looks the part of a potential elite QB.

[mav1234]

22 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

I was nervous after seeing his arm talent last game, I really didnt think it was that bad until week 1 and now after last night I am not sure how they are going to make this work.

I'm hoping its something like his timing is off and they're asking BY to do too much so he isn't in sync with the offense... because... eesh.  His arm did not look good last night.

Edited September 19, 2023 by mav1234