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2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

You would honestly bench a guy putting up 275+ yards and 35 points to play your shiny rookie out of pride? That would be dumb. 

If Dalton looks great I would be calling up the Jets to trade him away.  If we keep sucking trade away Burns too.  Get those future picks.  

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Just now, ForJimmy said:

I'm fairly certain they stated we would start off slow, but see improvements towards the end of the year.   That was after the preseason.  Remember @CamWhoaaCam got mad and you were telling him that our staff is saying what you were saying all offseason?  As for the offseason quotes, I wouldn't put too much weight into any of that.  

Ive said for months 2024 is the season, now with these holes and these moves that havent panned out, man I just dont know.   All of a sudden to me this is becoming a tear it to the studs rebuild.  We got a lot of guys due some big money and a bunch of holes all around

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Just now, mrcompletely11 said:

Ive said for months 2024 is the season, now with these holes and these moves that havent panned out, man I just dont know.   All of a sudden to me this is becoming a tear it to the studs rebuild.  We got a lot of guys due some big money and a bunch of holes all around

And no #1 pick.

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2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

You would honestly bench a guy putting up 275+ yards and 35 points to play your shiny rookie out of pride? That would be dumb. 

It's not out of pride. If anything it's out of a sense of self preservation. What I'm saying is that Tepper values Bryce's development ahead of a playoff berth this year. Reich surely knows that; Fitterer damn sure knows that.

Reich benching Bryce would only serve as a signal to Tepper that either he's incapable of doing his job or that Bryce is a bust. In either case, it wouldn't be to Reich's benefit.

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7 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Ive said for months 2024 is the season, now with these holes and these moves that havent panned out, man I just dont know.   All of a sudden to me this is becoming a tear it to the studs rebuild.  We got a lot of guys due some big money and a bunch of holes all around

And no picks to fill those holes. It’s going to be a long 3 years of basement dwelling 

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