Is this the end of the S2?

[Pantherxtreme]

6 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

Mahomes sat for a year. Rodgers rode pine for multiple. Manning stunk it up in year one. Brees was trending bust after his first stop with the Chargers. Huddle legend Trevor Lawrence was cheap his first season(and honestly doesn't look like he is trending towards elite).

Sometimes it just doesn't work out the way it looks it was going to. 

Manning was 2nd in voting for Rookie of the year behind Randy Moss.

Sure he threw alot of picks but he flashed just as much. 

Everybody knew the Colts had their franchise guy just had to build around him. 

I'm not sure what we have yet. But right now there's no comparison. 

[mrcompletely11]

3 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

Are you agreeing to the “game” or just naming busts? I’m curious to see how it goes. 

He mentioned rodgers and Bree’s.   A late first and early second but now he just wants first overall.   So yeah.  That’s comical.   There are far more qbs that started out like poo and didn’t get better vs the mythical had a bad rookie year and still turned it around.   So I will play that game naming qbs that were bad year one and sucked all their career vs guys that turned it around.   The odds are heavily skewed toward the former.   

[kungfoodude]

13 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Lol you use Bree’s and rodgers but now you want just first overall.   Lol.   

You said top pick. 

What's wrong? Don't like those terms?

[kungfoodude]

14 minutes ago, Wundrbread33 said:

I just really want to type “Akili Smith” tho. 

 

Oh there are busts. But more hits than misses historically 

[mrcompletely11]

Just now, kungfoodude said:

You said top pick. 

What's wrong? Don't like those terms?

I said top 5.  But you are using late firsts early second as examples.   Let’s do that and see how we end up.  

[mrcompletely11]

Just now, kungfoodude said:

Oh there are busts. But more hits than misses historically 

So why use Bree’s and rodgers?  Lol.   

[kungfoodude]

7 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

I said top 5.  But you are using late firsts early second as examples.   Let’s do that and see how we end up.  

I have my terms you can take them or leave them. 

[kungfoodude]

7 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

So why use Bree’s and rodgers?  Lol.   

Because those are literally all examples of situations/careers that changed over time. I really honestly didn't think that would be that hard to figure out.

Obviously the Huddle is a bit slower than I thought because you aren't even close to the only one to have that go over your head.

It's 3-4 games into these dudes careers. I think we can chill with the hyperbole. 

[Pantherxtreme]

The Panthers right now...

 

[jasonluckydog]

This trade will make Jamarcus Russell fans happy. He will finally be off the hook.

[PleaseCutStewart]

No, it can still be used as a small piece of data to evaluate QBs.

The problem is our genius front office made it the single most important data point to draft a QB while 31 other teams laughed at us.

[travisura]

12 hours ago, Pantherxtreme said:

The Panthers right now...

 

After 4 games, CJ Stroud has been anointed the Michael Jordan of football.

Edited October 3, 2023 by travisura

[Car123]

Blame Tepper and his analytics style of team building.  Football isn’t won by computers or test taking.

[Silent Majority]

On 10/2/2023 at 1:16 PM, kungfoodude said:

Also, calling your shot through 4 games of any of these QB's career is laughable. 

No doubt Stroud looks great now but let's calm down about 4 game career.

Kyle Allen isn't headed to the HOF

Why do you all feel the need to exaggerate this argument? Nobody's said this.