The impressive throw you wanted from Bryce

[Mr Mojo Risin]

5 minutes ago, Varking said:

Trevor is the #2 QB in the NFL through four games per PFF this season. Urban wasted his rookie year. 

This year is what year 3 for Lawrence? What does that have to do with anything I said?

So Trevor was the victim of bad schemes his rookie year. Gotcha. The bad schemes made him miss wide open throws and the rookie mistakes you normally see from a QB. Gotcha. Trevor threw 1 TD pass the entire months of November and December that year too. But I'm sure that was all on the coaching staff and had absolutely nothing to do with being a rookie qb on a terrible team (similar to what Bryce Young is going through currently).

Believe what you want but when Bryce does get it together towards the end of the season and into year 2 it is going to be great to hear the excuses you and everyone else who is bashing our rookie qb come up with as to why he's all of a sudden being successful.

 

[Varking]

4 minutes ago, Mr Mojo Risin said:

This year is what year 3 for Lawrence? What does that have to do with anything I said?

So Trevor was the victim of bad schemes his rookie year. Gotcha. The bad schemes made him miss wide open throws and the rookie mistakes you normally see from a QB. Gotcha. Trevor threw 1 TD pass the entire months of November and December that year too. But I'm sure that was all on the coaching staff and had absolutely nothing to do with being a rookie qb on a terrible team (similar to what Bryce Young is going through currently).

Believe what you want but when Bryce does get it together towards the end of the season and into year 2 it is going to be great to hear the excuses you and everyone else who is bashing our rookie qb come up with as to why he's all of a sudden being successful.

 

Just pointing out Trevor wasn’t just in a bad scheme, he was in a toxic environment with Meyer. Bryce is not in that here. And you must be quoting the wrong person if you think I don’t give Bryce props when he does something good. Check out the game day threads, analysis threads, etc. I damn sure won’t be making excuses for poor performance or success.

[mrcompletely11]

15 minutes ago, Mr Mojo Risin said:

This year is what year 3 for Lawrence? What does that have to do with anything I said?

So Trevor was the victim of bad schemes his rookie year. Gotcha. The bad schemes made him miss wide open throws and the rookie mistakes you normally see from a QB. Gotcha. Trevor threw 1 TD pass the entire months of November and December that year too. But I'm sure that was all on the coaching staff and had absolutely nothing to do with being a rookie qb on a terrible team (similar to what Bryce Young is going through currently).

Believe what you want but when Bryce does get it together towards the end of the season and into year 2 it is going to be great to hear the excuses you and everyone else who is bashing our rookie qb come up with as to why he's all of a sudden being successful.

 

now do zach wilson

[CRA]

17 minutes ago, Mr Mojo Risin said:

This year is what year 3 for Lawrence? What does that have to do with anything I said?

So Trevor was the victim of bad schemes his rookie year. Gotcha. The bad schemes made him miss wide open throws and the rookie mistakes you normally see from a QB. Gotcha. Trevor threw 1 TD pass the entire months of November and December that year too. But I'm sure that was all on the coaching staff and had absolutely nothing to do with being a rookie qb on a terrible team (similar to what Bryce Young is going through currently).

Believe what you want but when Bryce does get it together towards the end of the season and into year 2 it is going to be great to hear the excuses you and everyone else who is bashing our rookie qb come up with as to why he's all of a sudden being successful.

 

Jags had the worst HC in decades.  It was a literal reality TV comedy show.  So bad that Matt Rhule couldn't get a little talk. 

And their skill talent around the rookie made the current Panthers look fast. 

Trevor didn't make some massive jump from year 1 to year 2.  The massive jump/change was what was around Trevor.   Coaching and skill talent. 

 

[Coheed]

5 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

now do zach wilson

It’s almost like both types of trajectories are still in play and it’s still way too early to tell. 

[Mr Mojo Risin]

5 hours ago, CRA said:

Jags had the worst HC in decades.  It was a literal reality TV comedy show.  So bad that Matt Rhule couldn't get a little talk. 

And their skill talent around the rookie made the current Panthers look fast. 

Trevor didn't make some massive jump from year 1 to year 2.  The massive jump/change was what was around Trevor.   Coaching and skill talent. 

 

Trevor had Chark, Shenault and a bad Oline. Sound familiar?

And as Trevor's environment improved from year 1 to year 2, he improved. Why can't the same be said for Bryce?

Edited October 5, 2023 by Mr Mojo Risin

[mrcompletely11]

14 minutes ago, Mr Mojo Risin said:

Trevor had Chark, Shenault and a bad Oline. Sound familiar?

And as Trevor's environment improved from year 1 to year 2, he improved. Why can't the same be said for Bryce?

now do sam darnold

[ForJimmy]

1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

now do sam darnold

Watch Sam look great in San Fran.  Baker is looking good in Tampa and Sam looked better than him here.  Moral of the story is we are were QBs go to ruin their careers lately....

[mrcompletely11]

Just now, ForJimmy said:

Watch Sam look great in San Fran.  Baker is looking good in Tampa and Sam looked better than him here.  Moral of the story is we are were QBs go to ruin their careers lately....

moral of the story is very every Trevor comparison there are 20 zach wilsons. 

[ForJimmy]

1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

moral of the story is very every Trevor comparison there are 20 zach wilsons. 

Wilson flashed some potential last game. Let’s see if he can build on it. 

[mrcompletely11]

Just now, ForJimmy said:

Wilson flashed some potential last game. Let’s see if he can build on it. 

if we are 3 years in and still waiting on young to "flash" some potential then we are in way worse shape then I currently think

[ForJimmy]

2 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

if we are 3 years in and still waiting on young to "flash" some potential then we are in way worse shape then I currently think

Oh they obviously gave up on him and signed Rodgers, but I'd like to see Zach show he belongs in the league.  His appears to be all mental though similar to Darnold. 

[CRA]

29 minutes ago, Mr Mojo Risin said:

Trevor had Chark, Shenault and a bad Oline. Sound familiar?

And as Trevor's environment improved from year 1 to year 2, he improved. Why can't the same be said for Bryce?

Trevor didn’t have Thielen and our weak backfield was even better.  And Urban Meyer made Matt Rhule look competent.   Trevor was in a worse spot than Bryce.  
 

Trevor was also a physically built robot in a lab for the NFL, Bryce isn’t.   There are going to be some things that will never be on the table for Bryce because of limitations that don’t apply to Trevor. 

[frankw]

Can we please stop comparing him with Trevor Lawrence. They are two fairly different quarterbacks. Find some other way to cope.