Bryce's best play today?

[Growl]

1 hour ago, KSpan said:

Yes, this was Russel Wilson-level slop - it's OK to recognize that and we can all appreciate that it's nice to have it on our side. Doesn't change that those throws are othen ill-advised and it was fortunate the defense didn't intercept it. Nice to be able to get away with it but the best part of the play was escapability, not the throw.

I am in no way suggesting that Levis is a better QB than Bryce and am only referencing the arm strength factor that you brought up, so don't bother creating that straw man, but Levis' 4th TD today was 50 yards off his back foot. That is arm strength. Bryce played a solid game today for sure and after a very rocky start is trending up but he still labors to put zip on throws and his arm is not comparable to top NFL arms at this time. It is what it is. 

that you call it “Russell Wilson slop” really says a lot about how little you’ve learned presumably watching Wilson play 

Wilson wasn’t just heaving it up and neither is Bryce, stop using “how fast the ball is going because that’s all I can see on screen” as a metric, it makes you look like you don’t understand what’s happening, perhaps because you don’t 

[CBDellinger]

10 minutes ago, Ghostface Chilla said:

The TD pass to Tremble was nice, especially with Tommy getting held in that play. Clean pass and catch.

Indeed.  I liked how Bryce had to wait just a second then made a great touch pass ahead of tremble. Showed great poise and didn’t rush it.  Kid can play. 

[KSpan]

13 minutes ago, Growl said:

“guys he only threw the ball 35 air yards”

Yeah, every NFL QB can do that. His argument was that this throw somehow showed arm strength. Don't twist my response out of context.

10 minutes ago, Growl said:

that you call it “Russell Wilson slop” really says a lot about how little you’ve learned presumably watching Wilson play 

Wilson wasn’t just heaving it up and neither is Bryce, stop using “how fast the ball is going because that’s all I can see on screen” as a metric, it makes you look like you don’t understand what’s happening, perhaps because you don’t 

I watched Wilson play for years and you know as well as I do that he threw up a ton of slop that somehow landed, and the fact that it doesn't work in Denver shows that his receivers bailed him out quite a bit. And once again, the poster's point was at first arm strength and then it moved to this somehow being a sign of superior play, which just isn't the case when it comes to the throw power that he himself was referencing.

You guys completely twist any point about lack of arm strength into BS like fastballs, which is disingenuous. Your smug and condescending schtick doesn't help your efforts either.

Edited October 30, 2023 by KSpan

[Shocker]

The throw to AT down near the goal line was spectacular 

[KatsAzz]

4 hours ago, Pejorative Miscreant said:

It had to be one of the 15 or so plays where he was able to get up after being buried in the turf by a defensive lineman.

Today should have proved to everyone that Bryce Young can  take numerous hits then get up like nothing happened and go on to the next play. 

[CBDellinger]

1 minute ago, KatsAzz said:

Today should have proved to everyone that Bryce Young can  take numerous hits then get up like nothing happened and go on to the next play. 

I would add to that resilience… refs missed what appeared to be a personal foul on the 3rd down slide and he got up and converted 4th down. Kid has mad poise. 

[KatsAzz]

1 minute ago, CBDellinger said:

I would add to that resilience… refs missed what appeared to be a personal foul on the 3rd down slide and he got up and converted 4th down. Kid has mad poise. 

Exactly. The first player that hit Bryce Young had probably already committed but the second player that hit him launched his tackle well after Bryce was into his slide and a personal foul should have been called. 

[Growl]

34 minutes ago, KSpan said:

Yeah, every NFL QB can do that. His argument was that this throw somehow showed arm strength. Don't twist my response out of context.

I watched Wilson play for years and you know as well as I do that he threw up a ton of slop that somehow landed, and the fact that it doesn't work in Denver shows that his receivers bailed him out quite a bit. And once again, the poster's point was at first arm strength and then it moved to this somehow being a sign of superior play, which just isn't the case when it comes to the throw power that he himself was referencing.

You guys completely twist any point about lack of arm strength into BS like fastballs, which is disingenuous. Your smug and condescending schtick doesn't help your efforts either.

do you know how ridiculous you look suggesting that Wilson just lobbed balls in the air and got lucky for as long as he did?

russ layered the ball down the field as well as anyone-it’s an anticipation based trait that teams covet way more than the “wow this guy throws it so hard” that fans whose vision and interest never extends beyond the focal point of the camera on a given play because it minimizes the window of opportunity for the defense to react by condensing the time the receiver spends tracking the ball. The QB knows where the ball is going. The WR knows where the ball is going. The DB doesn’t. 

Edited October 30, 2023 by Growl

[CBDellinger]

23 minutes ago, Growl said:

do you know how ridiculous you look suggesting that Wilson just lobbed balls in the air and got lucky for as long as he did?

russ layered the ball down the field as well as anyone-it’s an anticipation based trait that teams covet way more than the “wow this guy throws it so hard” that fans whose vision and interest never extends beyond the focal point of the camera on a given play because it minimizes the window of opportunity for the defense to react by condensing the time the receiver spends tracking the ball. The QB knows where the ball is going. The WR knows where the ball is going. The DB doesn’t. 

And that is why you draft a player like Bryce Young.  He’s throwing b4 the break. That’s hard to defend when it’s on.  

[KSpan]

7 hours ago, Growl said:

do you know how ridiculous you look suggesting that Wilson just lobbed balls in the air and got lucky for as long as he did?

russ layered the ball down the field as well as anyone-it’s an anticipation based trait that teams covet way more than the “wow this guy throws it so hard” that fans whose vision and interest never extends beyond the focal point of the camera on a given play because it minimizes the window of opportunity for the defense to react by condensing the time the receiver spends tracking the ball. The QB knows where the ball is going. The WR knows where the ball is going. The DB doesn’t. 

Do you know how ridiculous you sound by not acknowledging that his magic suddenly dried up when he went to Denver and no longer had guys like Lockett and Baldwin to bail him out on a number of these types of plays? Funny how that works 

I understand full well why Bryce threw it. It just wasn't a great throw overall even though it was completed, a risky heave that landed inside and a bit short of Thielen but worked out on par with the type of BS from Wilson that we've suffered from over the years. This example was many years ago but I bet your comments at the time, like everyone else's here, were not about Russ's 'anticipation'.

https://youtu.be/68bcN62O1rQ?feature=shared

Again though, Bryce's escape was solid and he looked better today overall and my initial response was about the notion that it somehow showed arm strength. I'd put the TD to Tremble over this play for as a better throw of the day.

Edited October 30, 2023 by KSpan

[Bama Panther]

12 hours ago, KSpan said:

Come on now. It was a very good play but he threw that ball 35 yards through the air, a feat that literally every NFL QB can do, and it was the type of heave that can be vulnerable to interception. He had a nice game today but this play does not support an arm strength argument.

Bryce’s feet weren’t set at all during that throw though. It actually does support an arm strength argument. 

[KSpan]

12 minutes ago, Bama Panther said:

Bryce’s feet weren’t set at all during that throw though. It actually does support an arm strength argument. 

It was 35 air yards. Most every college QB can do that distance in this situation, let alone NFL. Hell, we see HS kids do this same thing weekly around here these days. His placement was OK enough to get a completion so that is perhaps worth noting, but the distance is not.

Before my words get twisted like some people here invariably do, I am again strictly talking in this comment about the original comment about this play as it may or may not relate to arm strength. Nothing more.

Edited October 30, 2023 by KSpan

[BrianS]

One play in one game doesn't change the arm strength argument.  Just like one game doesn't suddenly make Young a franchise QB.  It's a start.  We're all happy to see it.  Similarly, one game doesn't suddenly make us playoff contenders.  We're happy to see the win, but there is a long, long road between where we are and becoming a consistent contender.

Enjoy the win, and hope that we build from there.  This is the way.

[Cary Kollins]

10 hours ago, KSpan said:

No, it's not. It's a lucky slop throw, just like the ones Russel Wilson used to get away with and no longer does, and you have now moved the argument from it being a display of superior arm strength, which it is not, to the play in general.

I have nothing else to say here, so believe what you like. I'll agree with anyone that it's nice to see the positive trend these past weeks after the poor start.

go watch the replays of the throw from multiple angles. Live, the throw looked like one of Wilson’s prayer balls where his WR bailed him out, which he built his entire career on. This was not one of those throws. Thielen had the defender beat, Bryce recognized it and dropped it perfectly over the defenders shoulder. Wilson would constantly throw moon balls, often times under-thrown into double coverage and his star WRs would make ridiculous catches, and everyone would praise Wilson. Again, this was not one of those throws lol. 

Edited October 30, 2023 by Cary Kollins