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QB School Bryce Young vs Colts

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7 minutes ago, The NFL Shield At Midfield said:

All of our WRs are slower than poo rolling up hill.  When you see these film breakdowns it really drives it home.

Mingo runs a 4.46. Chark runs a 4.36. Marshall runs a 4.38 (admittedly at his Pro Day, so let's say he runs a 4.4).

Ironically our slowest WR is the one that's open the most. 

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Just now, 96Bravo said:

This is all the more reason to start Andy Dalton. If, for no other reason, to protect BY physically and mentally.  And if we can find some revelations at the same time, all the better.

If we have to protect him mentally we've already waved the white flag on the pick.

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2 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

Mingo runs a 4.46. Chark runs a 4.36. Marshall runs a 4.38 (admittedly at his Pro Day, so let's say he runs a 4.4).

Ironically our slowest WR is the one that's open the most. 

I seriously doubt Chark runs anything close to a 4.36 these days. Especially after having ankle surgery earlier this year 

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2 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

Mingo runs a 4.46. Chark runs a 4.36. Marshall runs a 4.38 (admittedly at his Pro Day, so let's say he runs a 4.4).

Ironically our slowest WR is the one that's open the most. 

Maybe "slow" is the wrong word.  There have been plenty of guys who blazed in shorts but can't get separation, run bad routes, can't catch, and so on.  Whatever you want to call it, everybody not named Adam Thielen is that.

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8 minutes ago, 96Bravo said:

It's almost as if the coaching staff doesn't want the receivers to run deep routes. Chark and TMJ can attempt to do so. 

And this guy's attacks on Thielen...damn. he seems to be criticizing him for being slow...which happens with age. And for being "#1" receiver. But that's not Thielen's fault for being considered #1. And he's ridiculing Thielen's block attempt. But who designed that? I'll bet it wasn't AT's idea.

Look, Thielen's not the greatest, but he's clearly the most reliable right now.

Why call deep routes if Young is unable / unwilling to hit them?

9 games in and no defence is worried about our ability to get in behind them now. 

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 Who ever designed this playbook after looking at our roster, need to be canned. If Frank and Brown both worked on it, fire them both. I feel like they try the same poo week after week looking for different results. Our line was so much better running Power. It is mind boggling why they switched to zone runs and they continue to run them when it doesn't work. 

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2 minutes ago, Cullenator said:

How does this guy get so much attention?  6th rounder that bounced from team to team as a backup with limited time as a starter.  Nobody would know who this jabroni is if it werent for youtube

He was in the NFL for a long time and played for a bunch of different teams.  He's not like Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson or something physically but you'd think he'd understand how to run an offense and watch film if he kept ending up on rosters.

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