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Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS QBrec Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% 1D Succ% Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate QBR Sk Yds Sk% NY/A ANY/A 4QC GWD AV Awards
                                                                   
                320 526 60.8 3284 17 3.2 16 3.0 164 42.7 52 6.2 5.5 10.3 205.3 76.9   24 180 4.4 5.64 4.95 2 4 10

 

the huddle would have been wanting a new QB with these stats

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1 hour ago, Panther53521 said:
Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS QBrec Cmp Att Cmp% Yds TD TD% Int Int% 1D Succ% Lng Y/A AY/A Y/C Y/G Rate QBR Sk Yds Sk% NY/A ANY/A 4QC GWD AV Awards
                                                                   
                320 526 60.8 3284 17 3.2 16 3.0 164 42.7 52 6.2 5.5 10.3 205.3 76.9   24 180 4.4 5.64 4.95 2 4 10

 

the huddle would have been wanting a new QB with these stats

If that says 4 game winning drives then I disagree. Folks here went nuts over one win when we scored just 15 points and they thought the narrative around Bryce was changing. 

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On 11/19/2023 at 4:00 PM, PootieNunu said:

All he is missing is the four or five rushing TDs and he is a Bridgewater clone. 

Teddy in CAR, with a terrible rookie OC, awful O-line and virtually no CMC: 69.1%, 3,733 yds, 7.6 YPA, 15 TD's, 11 INT's, 5.3 YPC and 5 TD's...

Seriously, why do you hate Teddy so much?

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8 hours ago, BrianS said:

Yards per attempt is not the metric we should judge Bryce by.  We should be looking at Air Yards per Attempt.  That's the metric that tells us how far he was TRYING to throw the ball.  It currently sits at 4.7 air yards per attempt.

Honestly, his interceptions aren't overly concerning.  He's currently throwing INT's at a rate of 2.5%.  It's not awful.  During his Panthers career, Delhomme threw them at a rate of 3.3%.  And Jake was great.  Would you take young Jake back today?  I sure would.

What is concerning is his TD rate.  It's only 2.8%.  That's a problem.  Cam and Jake both threw TD's at a rate of 4.5%.

There is plenty of fault to go around with our offense.  But BY needs to control what he can control.  Be mechanically sound, make the right read, get the ball out on time.  Those things show up on film.  If your QB is doing those things, you can see on film that he is not the problem.

Jake was a gunslinger, you expect that with those types of QBs.  Bryce's interceptions are bad cause he is a game manager and you expect him to take care of the ball

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5 hours ago, 96Bravo said:

Teddy in CAR, with a terrible rookie OC, awful O-line and virtually no CMC: 69.1%, 3,733 yds, 7.6 YPA, 15 TD's, 11 INT's, 5.3 YPC and 5 TD's...

Seriously, why do you hate Teddy so much?

because his play was conservative dink and dunk horse poo, we had a chance to win almost every game on the final drive that year and we won zero of those because he would throw screens to boost his completion %

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53 minutes ago, TN05 said:

because his play was conservative dink and dunk horse poo, we had a chance to win almost every game on the final drive that year and we won zero of those because he would throw screens to boost his completion %

7.6 YPA is not exactly dink and dunk. Also, Teddy, who had led game winning drives in MN and NO told us all exactly what happened. Rookie OC didn't properly practice 2-min drills and red zone offense...and it clearly showed! Ultimately Joe Brady would be fired because he sucked. Why not believe Teddy? It's not like he's got some history of lying. 

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14 hours ago, jfra78 said:

Jake was a gunslinger, you expect that with those types of QBs.  Bryce's interceptions are bad cause he is a game manager and you expect him to take care of the ball

Bryce is a rookie. Rookies in the best of situations throw INTs, much less a rookie with human turnstiles for protection. 

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17 hours ago, 96Bravo said:

Teddy in CAR, with a terrible rookie OC, awful O-line and virtually no CMC: 69.1%, 3,733 yds, 7.6 YPA, 15 TD's, 11 INT's, 5.3 YPC and 5 TD's...

Seriously, why do you hate Teddy so much?

Teddy sucked. 

Many are clinging to hope on Bryce simply because of the massive investment we made and knowing that we're stuck with him for at least two years due to that.

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I just want to see Bryce stack some positive games together. Just something to keep his confidence up and have something to build on. He's in an impossible situation right now with the bad Oline, play calling and WR's not named Adam Thelien that he's not afford the luxury to make the typical rookie growing pains and still have the chance to win a game. This team knows it doesn't have the offense to win games so instead of going out and trying to play to win they are just going out and just trying not to lose and hope that the defense can keep it close enough to where it'll only take 1 drive in the 4th to win. We just simply don't have the horses to be able to win right now. So just forget the stats and just start looking at things that will translate like for example Bryce's leadership, toughness, and he's made some pretty good clutch 4th down throws and some throws with elite anticipation his year. 

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3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Teddy sucked. 

Many are clinging to hope on Bryce simply because of the massive investment we made and knowing that we're stuck with him for at least two years due to that.

Bryce gets half of next season at most before he gets the Zach Wilson treatment. Nathaniel Hackett and Franch Reich took their last years disasters to new teams like a smallpox blanket

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