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Serious question: what HC candidate in their right mind would want to come here?

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This idea of him being too impulsive is overplayed around here and a narrative that really isn't born in fact.

Tepper was arguably too patient with Ron, too patient with Hurney, too patient with Rhule, and probably too patient with Fitt.

The one football coach that he fired quickly won one game out of this first 11.  Also has an offense that is ranked 29th in the league and defense that is ranked 30th. NFL Football Stats - NFL Team Points per Game | TeamRankings.com

Any coach that doesn't want to come here because he expects job security after being that bad isn't a coach that we need.

 

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9 minutes ago, jamos14 said:

Why?

He fired the coach.  The report was leaked to media before the front office could meet with the  players.  They were on their phone and saw the reports.

This doesn't mean anything.   Tepp has sucked as an owner but this is nothing.

It means he's unprofessional.

That's on top of all the things we already know.

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7 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

It means he's unprofessional.

That's on top of all the things we already know.

What was the alternative?  Tepper didn't leak the report.

 

A)  Fire Tepper in front of the team so they both find out together (Hell no)

B) Tell the team they are firing him before they tell him

 

There is nothing unprofessional at all.  

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1 minute ago, jamos14 said:

What was the alternative?  Tepper didn't leak the report.

 

A)  Fire Tepper in front of the team so they both find out together (Hell no)

B) Tell the team they are firing him before they tell him

 

There is nothing unprofessional at all.  

not real sure why scot is leaning into that so much, he fired the coach on a monday morning, how else was he supposed to do it?

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12 minutes ago, AU-panther said:

This idea of him being too impulsive is overplayed around here and a narrative that really isn't born in fact.

Tepper was arguably too patient with Ron, too patient with Hurney, too patient with Rhule, and probably too patient with Fitt.

The one football coach that he fired quickly won one game out of this first 11.  Also has an offense that is ranked 29th in the league and defense that is ranked 30th. NFL Football Stats - NFL Team Points per Game | TeamRankings.com

Any coach that doesn't want to come here because he expects job security after being that bad isn't a coach that we need.

 

I get the sentiment but sometimes it does take time to implement systems, get players on board and most importantly, get the right players on the roster. Whatever HC takes over next year is inheriting a group of largely mediocre players without a single legit "star" on the team. No one on this team on either side of the ball is irreplaceable. I can't think of another team for which that is true. A good HC should be able to do better than Reich has done with whoever the players are, yes. But that said this team needs a full rebuild and there will need to be lower expectations because of that.

Would anybody be surprised if whatever coach we hire next year is fired because of a 3-11 start to the season? Or a 2-15 season? Andy Reid started 3-11 his first year in Philly and Jimmy Johnson went 1-15 his first year with Dallas. Plenty of HC candidates understand the reality that it takes time to build a team that will have sustained success. We've seen a handful of coaches come in right away and start winning/make the playoffs but many of them fizzle out. Most of the HCs that have had staying power had some early struggles. Sure there are some exceptions but those are mostly guys who took over for highly successful teams where the HC retired rather than crappy teams where previous coaches were fired, like our situation.

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2 minutes ago, t96 said:

I get the sentiment but sometimes it does take time to implement systems, get players on board and most importantly, get the right players on the roster. Whatever HC takes over next year is inheriting a group of largely mediocre players without a single legit "star" on the team. No one on this team on either side of the ball is irreplaceable. I can't think of another team for which that is true. A good HC should be able to do better than Reich has done with whoever the players are, yes. But that said this team needs a full rebuild and there will need to be lower expectations because of that.

Would anybody be surprised if whatever coach we hire next year is fired because of a 3-11 start to the season? Or a 2-15 season? Andy Reid started 3-11 his first year in Philly and Jimmy Johnson went 1-15 his first year with Dallas. Plenty of HC candidates understand the reality that it takes time to build a team that will have sustained success. We've seen a handful of coaches come in right away and start winning/make the playoffs but many of them fizzle out. Most of the HCs that have had staying power had some early struggles. Sure there are some exceptions but those are mostly guys who took over for highly successful teams where the HC retired rather than crappy teams where previous coaches were fired, like our situation.

The issue was not the winning/losing IMO.  It's that there has been 0 growth.  It's actually gotten worse as the season went on.  No potential to build on.

 

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