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If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck...it's a duck.


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On 12/11/2023 at 10:14 AM, thennek said:

Young has already got one HC fired. I really think Frank was trying to protect Young for some reason. Young seems like a really good dude so perhaps this makes it more difficult IDK. This offense is a Jimmy Clausen led offense bad.
I also think Frank took back the play calling back from Brown to protect Brown from Tepper. 
The Panthers are dysfunctional due to the owner and it is transferring to the coaches, scouts, GM, players and ultimately the field. 

Yeah that whole unidentifiable offense with no deep throws and no under center and bringing in a body double to sneak it, that is what it was.

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On 12/13/2023 at 12:13 AM, mav1234 said:

Whether a duck or a goose if it's foul it's no good either way.

And thus far, Bryce certainly is foul with his on field performance.

We'll see how long this experiment lasts. For the sake of this franchise, I hope it ends before it blows up beyond repair.

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On 12/14/2023 at 6:54 AM, electro's horse said:

Imagine us keeping Wilks, cmc and moore, drafting Levis and letting him sit behind dalton for a half a season or so. 
 

imagine it. 

Now imagine us having two extra first round picks from trading Burns that could get us Marvin Harrison Jr. next year for Levis to have fun with, and/or a pass rusher that actually can finish his pass rushes and stop the run.

 

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1 minute ago, Saca312 said:

Now imagine us having two extra first round picks from trading Burns that could get us Marvin Harrison Jr. next year for Levis to have fun with, and/or a pass rusher that actually can finish his pass rushes and stop the run.

 

Fat fitt fuged up.   No rational person could argue against that

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    • I feel like this trade just lives rent free in people's heads and keeps morphing into different things. First thing is that the rumored trade was for future firsts. They wouldn't have any extra picks in 2023; the firsts would have been for 2024 and 2025. With very few exceptions, NFL GMs don't value picks that far away. You have to have a lot of job security to pull that off. Like Chiefs, Eagles, Rams kinda stability. That's obviously not the case with David Tepper, especially since he'd just fired his head coach. No GM except for like Howie Roseman is going to trade an asset you have now for a future asset you probably get to use.  Second, at the time you'd have to assume these are first rounders late in the first round. Obviously currency is currency and the panthers need young players, but these weren't slam dunk top ten picks. At the end of the day there's one pick that separates a first and second round pick.  Lastly, the only place that ever reported this trade was the Rams. All the reporters just repeated what McVay said and it became gospel. We have no idea how serious the negotiations were, if they ever really happened, if the offer was real, etc. And I personally believe McVay and Sneed are the kind of guys who would make up rumors like that to fug up other teams, mostly because I assume if I've thought of it someone smarter than me has.  I don't know how you'd call it the greatest draft haul of all time. Firsts quickly lose their value the farther out they are and Burns had 16.5 sacks last season. And anyway those picks would probably just been tossed into the burning inferno of the Bryce trade up so it's a moot point anyway. 
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