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Just how bad was Bryce Young?


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5 hours ago, toldozer said:

I think I'd be happy if stroud wins the super bowl this year.  The more things that make tepper look like a moron the better.  It's all I have to look forward to in terms of the panthers

It's not impossible. Joe Montana won the Super Bowl in 1989, and Brady went to the Super Bowl in 2007.

Meanwhile, according to Sports Illustrated, Bryce is ranked 5th worst in Adjusted Net Yards per Attempt (ANY/A) in the history of the NFL.

Good job, Tepper! 

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52 minutes ago, BenjaminBreeg said:

It's not impossible. Joe Montana won the Super Bowl in 1989, and Brady went to the Super Bowl in 2007.

Meanwhile, according to Sports Illustrated, Bryce is ranked 5th worst in Adjusted Net Yards per Attempt (ANY/A) in the history of the NFL.

Good job, Tepper! 

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Damn 89 Montana and 07 Brady are all timer QB seasons

Meanwhile Bryce is on the bust couch with Russel

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55 minutes ago, BenjaminBreeg said:

It's not impossible. Joe Montana won the Super Bowl in 1989, and Brady went to the Super Bowl in 2007.

Meanwhile, according to Sports Illustrated, Bryce is ranked 5th worst in Adjusted Net Yards per Attempt (ANY/A) in the history of the NFL.

Good job, Tepper! 

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I assume you meant 1979, his rookie year. No. It was his 3rd season. 

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6 minutes ago, Sean Payton's Vicodin said:

Damn 89 Montana and 07 Brady are all timer QB seasons

Meanwhile Bryce is on the bust couch with Russel

Russell Wilson? He's not a bust, just a systems QB who was lucky to have played for Pete Carroll alongside Legion of Boom and Beast Mode. 

Bryce right now is probably capable of playing like an average third stringer, provided that he's surrounded by future first ballot hall of famers at every position.

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7 hours ago, frankw said:

We will hear about coaching the OL and the receivers but even the biggest Panthers homers should have a difficult time sugar coating all this.

At best it's on par with Clausen.

Quite depressing.

Clausen had 3 TDs to 9 ints playing 12 games in 2010. Pretty much dead even on stats. Both horrendous. 

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Here’s something cool I’ve seen other teams do that I think could work for us.

survey the college landscape and find a QB who has all the physical characteristics  necessary in the NFL. Tall, big arm, accurate, natural leadership, etc… Additionally, find a guy who makes average talent look great. A guy that always finds a way to make it work. 

The formula in the NFL for a consistently winning franchise is to find a stud qb, that doesn’t need top talent all around him to make it work. A stud qb means that the offense will consistently be able to put up 24 points with good caliber players, and then you can afford to splurge on an all pro free agent to get you over the hump. Resources can be shifted towards an attacking defense that creates turnovers.

Bryce will never be able to make it work week in and week out unless he is surrounded by top talent at every position. 

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9 minutes ago, BenjaminBreeg said:

Russell Wilson? He's not a bust, just a systems QB who was lucky to have played for Pete Carroll alongside Legion of Boom and Beast Mode. 

Bryce right now is probably capable of playing like an average third stringer, provided that he's surrounded by future first ballot hall of famers at every position.

Meant Jamarcus Russel

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7 hours ago, frankw said:

We will hear about coaching the OL and the receivers but even the biggest Panthers homers should have a difficult time sugar coating all this.

At best it's on par with Clausen.

Quite depressing.

Well, I think the O-line did suck, most of our receivers sucked (not Thielen) and the coaching sucked but also Bryce sucked something awful as well and just looked overmatched, weak, afraid, hesitant and like he belonged as a 3rd string backup in NFL Europe or the USFL or something like that.

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