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45 minutes ago, BenjaminBreeg said:

In terms of the roster, we are urgently missing a starter caliber QB. 

Get a decent QB first and then evaluate the rest of the positions. You'd be surprised how much a historically bad QB can make the rest of the roster look bad.

 

That was the issue with not just playing Dalton at some point. Some BY dudes wanted Bryce to get "more experience" where in reality we wasted multiple games where we could have been actually evaluating the O-line and skill players with a NFL caliber qb under center. Now everything is a question mark instead of just the rookie qb

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21 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

That was the issue with not just playing Dalton at some point. Some BY dudes wanted Bryce to get "more experience" where in reality we wasted multiple games where we could have been actually evaluating the O-line and skill players with a NFL caliber qb under center. Now everything is a question mark instead of just the rookie qb

Now we are in the off season, I want some 'leaks' from the coaches and FO personnel on what transpired at training camp and during the season. Specifically, I want to know just how bad Bryce really was during camp and the precise reasons why coaches wanted to bench him in favor of Dalton. How did Young's limitations impact play calling and scheme? How much of the play book was thrown out because he couldn't make the throws or play under center?

On a different but twisted note, maybe Tepper will be proven right. Bryce might actually be the piece we need to win "multiple super bowls", because he's on track to tank the franchise so much that we could end up in the position of landing a truly transformative QB who will take us to multiple super bowls. One can dream.

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