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16 minutes ago, Steelo said:

I think it's speculation stemming from him being passed over for the HC job... him leaving wouldn't increase his odds of getting a HC job imo.

He's gotten HC interviews in back to back seasons in spite of bad teams around him.

Teams/front offices see his success.  Being here isn't diminishing his candidacy.  Do the bright lights of LA bring more eyes?  Sure.   But he's a known commodity.  

The reason he wasn't offered a HC position has nothing to do with being on Carolina and everything to do with the way the NFL coaching hires are trending (offensive).  Only 1 new defensive coach hired and that was Mike Macdonald who had the best defense in the NFL.  The other 2 were already with their teams.

If he wants to leave, I'm ok with it but a team is going to trade. He is an asset just like a player  is.

 

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2 hours ago, jamos14 said:

He's gotten HC interviews in back to back seasons in spite of bad teams around him.

Teams/front offices see his success.  Being here isn't diminishing his candidacy.  Do the bright lights of LA bring more eyes?  Sure.   But he's a known commodity.  

The reason he wasn't offered a HC position has nothing to do with being on Carolina and everything to do with the way the NFL coaching hires are trending (offensive).  Only 1 new defensive coach hired and that was Mike Macdonald who had the best defense in the NFL.  The other 2 were already with their teams.

If he wants to leave, I'm ok with it but a team is going to trade. He is an asset just like a player  is.

 

I seen a stat thats very hard to believe- all 32 teams have a different OC since 2022. Just insane. No team has anyone staying around to figure things out, its a constant turnover for teams. I mean how lucky are the KC or LAR are for having the 5 or so years perfecting their offense. Just seems the current times, you need to learn a new system each couple years. 

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12 minutes ago, Basbear said:

I seen a stat thats very hard to believe- all 32 teams have a different OC since 2022. Just insane. No team has anyone staying around to figure things out, its a constant turnover for teams. I mean how lucky are the KC or LAR are for having the 5 or so years perfecting their offense. Just seems the current times, you need to learn a new system each couple years. 

Well heres to hoping Canales works out, much easier to replace your OC when you don't have to change the overall scheme.

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the amount of people talking about Evero primarily in terms of compensation picks is kinda weird ngl. sure there's a rule that dictates what happens if he stays another year and then leaves for a head coach job down the line, but the football counts more. he's a good coach. he's done good things here already, and nobody will be surprised when he finally gets a head coaching spot.

I wouldn't want him to stick around if he doesn't want to, but he has lots of reasons to want to stay. it's a good place for him to be, he IS valued, he's already here, and he will have pretty much total purview over the defense here.

anywhere else he goes as a DC, even if he has a good relationship with the head coach, he'll be starting from scratch yet again. he turned down the interim HC opportunity in Denver after Hackett was fired (fair enough), and wasn't offered the interim role here for probably a variety of reasons. reasons totally unrelated to his potential success or failure as a future HC, I would assume. but turning down the interim role, leaving Denver to come to Carolina, and then leaving Carolina again after a year when he has a path to stay, this is not the kind of story that will be an asset to him in HC interviews. even if it's not fair to him, which it probably isn't.

he has a lot to gain by continuing to build the defense in Charlotte. the pieces are still all there. when asked why he took the job after not getting the HC job last cycle, he mentioned his relationship with Tepper and the pieces on defense that the Panthers had. nothing about both those things has changed.

I know the best way he can show everyone how wrong it was that he was passed over for the HC role two years in a row...

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If he wants to be a head coach he needs to put in the work at one place for more than one season.  If our offense improves to league average and the defense plays at a similar level as they did in '23, he will be even more highly thought of.

If I was a GM, I would be worried that he is just chasing $$$$.  Tepper opened the check book to get him.  If he was truly worried about fit, do you think this was the job?  He was able to show that he can successfully implement a new scheme with mismatched personnel.  Now if Evero were able to build upon it, that would make him HC material.  If he had the opportunity to stay in Denver and he was able to build upon the awesome defense they were playing at season's end, he would have gotten a job.

Play out your contract, continue to leave a place better than it was when he arrived.  If he doesn't get a HC job, he will be the most sought after DC in the NFL.

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9 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

We're going to add to the already dysfunctional reputation and environment we have amongst coaches and league people just so we can get one year of service from a coach who doesn't want to be here and an extra third round pick?

Does this really sound like a good trade-off to everybody?

It's not like we're talking about this year being a Super Bowl run or something.

I agree with this.

I like Evero, and want him to stay, but if he wants out, I believe you let him go. A 3rd round pick isn’t worth the possible backlash 

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On 1/31/2024 at 6:20 PM, Steelo said:

Well heres to hoping Canales works out, much easier to replace your OC when you don't have to change the overall scheme.

Also, him being the play caller was probably a plus for us. Won't even have a change of style if our OC moves on later.

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