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Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

Watching these two QBs really makes you scratch your head and wonder what in the world Panthers brass saw in Bryce Young to think he was worth the #1 overall pick. Where are the traits? These guys might be better playing left handed. I'm only partially joking.

Ironically neither is a #1 pick 

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1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Watching these two QBs really makes you scratch your head and wonder what in the world Panthers brass saw in Bryce Young to think he was worth the #1 overall pick. Where are the traits? These guys might be better playing left handed. I'm only partially joking.

Let's see how Bryce does under competent leadership/playcalling, with a better OL, and NFL caliber WRs. 

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Just now, BY9Franchise said:

Ironically neither is a #1 pick 

But they have elite talent. They're what you're hoping to get with a #1 overall pick. Lamar has the "running QB" knock against him and Mahomes had the "air raid QB" knock against them. Evaluations have changed since then and they're both a big reason why.

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9 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

The good teams are loaded with good mid-late rounders. That's the hill of the league. You have to fill your roster with those picks.

Since Marty came back, he and Fitt have been atrocious at just getting the bulk of their rookies selected post round 1 to finish out their rookie deals. 

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