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Sam Howell traded to Seattle

Jackie Lee

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1 minute ago, Khaki Lackey said:

Someone needs to tell the NFL that Justin Fields and Sam Howell are first ballot hall of famers. (according to carolinahuddle.com)

Nobody is saying that.

Meanwhile, they get traded for peanuts while both have shown more promise than the guy we've mortgaged the franchise on. That's them hard to swallow pills.

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On 3/14/2024 at 11:00 PM, Jackie Lee said:

Brutal. Especially if you include the CMC/Burns trades and the new guard/wr additions. Willing to gut your good defense just to see if this little guy can be a decent game manager lol. Hopefully if he's not they'll bench his ass and throw Dalton out there so we can watch actual competitive NFL football

meanwhile we need a d that keeps teams to under 13 points for us to have a chance. lol

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1 hour ago, Shotgun said:

meanwhile we need a d that keeps teams to under 13 points for us to have a chance. lol

All Burns talk aside it's easy to see why the defense finally got fed up with the historically pitiful offense led by Bryce Young. We were 32 out of 32 in offensive yards per game for the season and 32 out of 32 in total passing yards.

I'm still waiting to see anything about Bryce working with his receivers in his own time over these last few months. Seems like that would be pretty important to him given the excuses we kept hearing about a supposed lack of chemistry.

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18 minutes ago, frankw said:

All Burns talk aside it's easy to see why the defense finally got fed up with the historically pitiful offense led by Bryce Young. We were 32 out of 32 in offensive yards per game for the season and 32 out of 32 in total passing yards.

I'm still waiting to see anything about Bryce working with his receivers in his own time over these last few months. Seems like that would be pretty important to him given the excuses we kept hearing about a supposed lack of chemistry.

You definitely really see it wear on a unit when the unit on the other side of the ball simply can't hold up their end of the bargain. Whether it's a defense carrying an offense or vice versa. Eventually the carrying unit is just like... "Damn, no matter what we do these clowns on the other side of the ball are gonna find a way to fuging lose the game."

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2 hours ago, frankw said:

All Burns talk aside it's easy to see why the defense finally got fed up with the historically pitiful offense led by Bryce Young. We were 32 out of 32 in offensive yards per game for the season and 32 out of 32 in total passing yards.

I'm still waiting to see anything about Bryce working with his receivers in his own time over these last few months. Seems like that would be pretty important to him given the excuses we kept hearing about a supposed lack of chemistry.

Yes, Burns was in an impossible situation. To be a pass rush specialist and always playing from behind is a recipe for a terrible season.  

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On 3/14/2024 at 11:42 PM, CamWhoaaCam said:

Seahawks actually have legit weapons on offense. They seem to be trying to patch up the QB position.

 

I would have traded for Fields.

If Sam gets in a stable organization, he is going to play much better than the mess in Washington.  Washington is obviously selecting a QB so moving Howell was a smart move. IMO Howell will prove he's an NFL starting QB.   

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6 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Nobody is saying that.

Meanwhile, they get traded for peanuts while both have shown more promise than the guy we've mortgaged the franchise on. That's them hard to swallow pills.

Having a mediocre qb sets your franchise further back than having a bad one.

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27 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

What if you traded a boatload of assets to get the bad one?

We're basically left hoping our guy can get to mediocrity.

Nah.  If he sucks the same this year then we have the first pick next year to spend on a qb.  If he is mediocre this year we dont have the first overall pick and we still have no idea what we are doing at qb.  Crying over the past is getting a little old now.  After the 2nd next year all of that will be in the past.  It does no good to focus on that anymore.

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13 minutes ago, Tr3ach said:

Nah.  If he sucks the same this year then we have the first pick next year to spend on a qb.  If he is mediocre this year we dont have the first overall pick and we still have no idea what we are doing at qb.  Crying over the past is getting a little old now.  After the 2nd next year all of that will be in the past.  It does no good to focus on that anymore.

What's also in the past though? DJ Moore's tenure as a Panthers and the opportunity cost of the picks we gave up to get to #1 and who we passed on to take Bryce. This is shaping up to be the most disastrous move in franchise history.

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3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

What's also in the past though? DJ Moore's tenure as a Panthers and the opportunity cost of the picks we gave up to get to #1 and who we passed on to take Bryce. This is shaping up to be the most disastrous move in franchise history.

The whole roster is close to turning over.  The old HC and GM are gone.  Now we see if Bryce is good enough or not.  If he isn't he will lead us to his own replacement.  No one can change what has already happened.

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1 minute ago, ForJimmy said:

The whole roster is close to turning over.  The old HC and GM are gone.  Now we see if Bryce is good enough or not.  If he isn't he will lead us to his own replacement.  No one can change what has already happened.

I agree. But it's not the past yet. We're still in this poo right now. We won't be out until Bryce sinks or swims.

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