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11 minutes ago, CPF4LIFE said:

A friend on my facebook posted a video from a basketball gym yesterday and Bryce Young was there getting games in on the bball court. The dude doesnt look any different than he did last year.

Let me guess,  Bryce was playing point guard...

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20 minutes ago, CPF4LIFE said:

A friend on my facebook posted a video from a basketball gym yesterday and Bryce Young was there getting games in on the bball court. The dude doesnt look any different than he did last year.

It's a shame we've lowered our standards so far that to acknowledge or discuss this is considered over the line to some.

The lack of awareness on his part about this is too similar to Sam Darnold. At least Sam actually had all the physical tools. For what we gave up to draft him it's just very unfortunate.

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1 hour ago, frankw said:

It's a shame we've lowered our standards so far that to acknowledge or discuss this is considered over the line to some.

The lack of awareness on his part about this is too similar to Sam Darnold. At least Sam actually had all the physical tools. For what we gave up to draft him it's just very unfortunate.

It gets acknowledged and discussed in most topics and you post this in every one of them.

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3 minutes ago, csx said:

It gets acknowledged and discussed in most topics and you post this in every one of them.

Do you agree that it is a concern or are you just going to keep doing this charade where you enter every thread outraged that people are discussing something that makes eternal optimists uncomfortable?

It's perfectly fine if we disagree. Just don't frame it like you are some beacon of objectivity because you have a very clear shtick and it's been the same for years. Contrarian.

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2 hours ago, frankw said:

Do you agree that it is a concern or are you just going to keep doing this charade where you enter every thread outraged that people are discussing something that makes eternal optimists uncomfortable?

It's perfectly fine if we disagree. Just don't frame it like you are some beacon of objectivity because you have a very clear shtick and it's been the same for years. Contrarian.

I mean we can't really discuss WR's or Centers or whatever without mentioning the QB situation. Not sure what the optimists are grasping at. He was incognito all offseason except for a couple celebrity camp/youth camp appearances. Thielen was in the weight room every time they put out any footage inside the building. I think being the number 1 pick and QB1 comes with more weight than just showing up a day before voluntary workouts, no pun intended. If Cam had done the bare minimum imagine how much he would have been killed on here

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Here is the bottom line---if you assume that the offense was bad because Young was bad, then that position is understandable.  If you assume Young was bad because the offense was bad, that is understandable.   Personally, I think Bryce will improve a lot in 2024.   There just aren't too many rookie (or veteran) QBs who would have done well under these circumstances....full stop.  I have NEVER heard so many different experts (game announces throughout the season) analysis experts, talk so much about a team's receivers not getting separation.  Experts know how important this is because the qb has about a second to get the ball in that window--we did not have any windows.  Furthermore, we had 7 different LGs and 8 different RGs.  62 sacks, most up the middle.  So he had people in his face with no open receivers.  And people are saying, Bryce sucks!!  My question is this:  What is he supposed to do?  Make sure his plant foot is secure and he is holding the ball to his ear? 

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