Panthers Select Jonathan Brooks RB - 46th Pick, Round 2

[jb2288]

29 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

Sanders will be on the team this year, it would be irresponsible if he wasn't.

He counts $7.7 million against the cap.

If we cut or trade him, we take a $10.5 million cap hit

It would literally cost us almost $3 million more in cap space to get rid of him than it would to just have him be a backup or inactive every week.

Is there no way to trade the contract? My thought was always just let some team have him for free if they agree to take on a few mil of the contract

[Jackie Lee]

3 minutes ago, jb2288 said:

Is there no way to trade the contract? My thought was always just let some team have him for free if they agree to take on a few mil of the contract

You can kinda break even with a post June cut but it's still an $8M cap hit for him not to play at all. I guess you can pray for an injury on some other team and hope someone is desperate enough to split that $8M. Supply and demand is not in the RB markets favor though. Horrible contract

[tukafan21]

1 hour ago, jb2288 said:

Is there no way to trade the contract? My thought was always just let some team have him for free if they agree to take on a few mil of the contract

Nope, because dead cap hits are from the bonus already paid out.

He costs us that $7 million on the cap this season if on the roster, but the $10 and change if he’s not, no matter how it happens.

Cant get rid of him and then lose out on $3 million of cap space.  Thats either a decent vet we can’t sign or $3 million we can’t roll over into next season, either way it would be stupid.

At worst he’s a weekly inactive who we have in case of injuries, at best he’s part of a 3 man rotation this year with Chubba and the rookie, especially with him coming off the ACL, we probably should give him a light early work load.

[tukafan21]

1 hour ago, Jackie Lee said:

You can kinda break even with a post June cut but it's still an $8M cap hit for him not to play at all. I guess you can pray for an injury on some other team and hope someone is desperate enough to split that $8M. Supply and demand is not in the RB markets favor though. Horrible contract

From what I saw, the $10 million dead cap hit was if he was a post June 1st cut, not $8

If it’s really $8, then that changes things as that is basically his cap hit anyways, at that point he probably would get cut or traded.

Edited April 27 by tukafan21

[Jackie Lee]

3 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

From what I saw, the $10 million dead cap hit was if he was a post June 1st cut, not $8

If it’s really $8, then that changes things as that is basically his cap hit anyways, at that point he probably would get cut or traded.

OTC had it $8M this year then the rest spread out over the next two. OTC and Spotrac never match up on that sort of thing so it makes it difficult for us to really gauge. But yes eventually we owe him about $10M either way

[tukafan21]

17 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

OTC had it $8M this year then the rest spread out over the next two. OTC and Spotrac never match up on that sort of thing so it makes it difficult for us to really gauge. But yes eventually we owe him about $10M either way

I still think it makes more sense to keep him around this year anyways.

Brooks tore his ACL in November, even if he's ready to go for the start of camp, I'd like to see him on a low snap count early in the season and be part of a rotation all year, no matter how good he ends up looking.

We're not contending for the playoffs this year anyways, no need to risk putting too much of a workload on that knee before even the year mark of the injury.

Let him get through his rookie season in one piece as part of a 3 headed committee and then take the reins off him in year 2 and give him 20 or more touches a game as a 3 down back.

Edited April 27 by tukafan21

[trucpfan]

1 hour ago, tukafan21 said:

I still think it makes more sense to keep him around this year anyways.

Brooks tore his ACL in November, even if he's ready to go for the start of camp, I'd like to see him on a low snap count early in the season and be part of a rotation all year, no matter how good he ends up looking.

We're not contending for the playoffs this year anyways, no need to risk putting too much of a workload on that knee before even the year mark of the injury.

Let him get through his rookie season in one piece as part of a 3 headed committee and then take the reins off him in year 2 and give him 20 or more touches a game as a 3 down back.

This is literally the best approach possible. Only thing is coaches don’t wake up and say we’re not contenders this year they’re trying to win in a bad way so if he helps us win he’ll get more touches but I think we’d be setting ourselves up for success with this formula. End up with a very high draft pick again in each round and we’re hopefully loaded with talented young players.

[tukafan21]

22 minutes ago, trucpfan said:

This is literally the best approach possible. Only thing is coaches don’t wake up and say we’re not contenders this year they’re trying to win in a bad way so if he helps us win he’ll get more touches but I think we’d be setting ourselves up for success with this formula. End up with a very high draft pick again in each round and we’re hopefully loaded with talented young players.

The coaches want to win, but they know we’re not contenders this year and playing the long game with a guy coming off a torn ACL the previous November is the smart play

[heel31ok]

4 hours ago, Mother Grabber said:

that’s possible for any player on any team. can’t live life worrying about what may happen.

Yes and just as possible as the original proposal.

[spydaman27]

9 hours ago, Saca312 said:

Good pick. Best RB available. We've been needing a stronger run game for a while now.

Love the focus on tooling up the offense for Bryce.

Remember when we let the best RB in the league leave for peanuts? 

[BIGH2001]

You can sign a running back in free agency. We needed help on both lines and instead drafted like the we were the Chiefs and just needed to tweak a position on offense. Stupid.

[spydaman27]

11 hours ago, hepcat said:

I did not like the legette pick but I like this one. Brooks was very good until he got hurt. He’s not Bijan but he’s going to be a versatile bell cow RB. 

Also wasn’t the 8th overall pick, and he’s no Michael Penix

[MHS831]

12 hours ago, ForJimmy said:

It just said hr will be ready by June 1st training camp? It was a clean tear. 

I heard July 1--going from a memory with a poor track record.

[ForJimmy]

1 minute ago, MHS831 said:

I heard July 1--going from a memory with a poor track record.

It was July. My bad. Regardless he should get plenty of snaps this year.