Jump to content

  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

Caleb Williams is struggling big time in OTAs

Lame Duck

By Lame Duck,
in Carolina Panthers

 Share

Recommended Posts

Lame Duck Grand Master

Lame Duck

Posted
Posted (edited)

For anyone who cares… Sounds like Bryce last season but worse.  

 

The Athletic’s Jon Greenberg reports Caleb Williams and the Bears offense has struggled during OTAs. 
Bears beat writers have reported plenty of Williams’ passes hitting the ground, difficulties getting set for plays, and constant pressure on the rookie from the Chicago defense. Greenberg said Williams was “under pressure while his receivers (which didn’t include Rome Odunze or Keenan Allen) tried to get open. There were a few just-missed interceptions. Sometimes, Williams couldn’t even get passes off as the secondary used its space advantage in the red zone to shut down receivers. We saw a lot of screen passes, many of which turned into scores. Occasionally, the offense struggled to line up or get a play off.” Hopefully a full summer of practices against a tough Bears defense will prepare Williams — the No. 1 overall pick in the 2024 draft — for live action competition starting with the Titans in Week 1.
Edited by Lame Duck
  • Beer 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites
  • Popular Post
CRA Grand Master

CRA

Posted
  • Popular Post
Posted

Wasn’t Bryce praised as some vet type super player during all the camp work?   

Cam Newton struggled…until real football had to be played.  Then smashed the record books out the gate.  Ron couldn’t find the work to gift him the job over Clausen.  Think a run vs the Bengals is what Ron used as the reasoning (I mean it was good).  But Cam struggled until that week 1 game. 

You never know….

  • Pie 12
  • Beer 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
rayzor Grand Master

rayzor

Posted
Posted
4 minutes ago, CRA said:

Wasn’t Bryce praised as some vet type super player during all the camp work?   

Cam Newton struggled…until real football had to be played.  Then smashed the record books out the gate.  Ron couldn’t find the work to gift him the job offer Clausen.  Think a run vs the Bengals is what Ron used as the reasoning (I mean it was good).  But Cam struggled until that week 1 game. 

You never know….

one of Cam's first passes did some damage to smitty's hand...separated his middle and ring finger on one hand. that's about all i remember from him. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Jaxel Veteran

Jaxel

Posted
Posted
3 minutes ago, CRA said:

Wasn’t Bryce praised as some vet type super player during all the camp work?   

Cam Newton struggled…until real football had to be played.  Then smashed the record books out the gate.  Ron couldn’t find the work to gift him the job offer Clausen.  Think a run vs the Bengals is what Ron used as the reasoning (I mean it was good).  But Cam struggled until that week 1 game. 

You never know….

This, OTA's at this point are a meaningless sign. Now if it's the same thing in pre-season, I think you'll have a good idea of how things will start out. Not to say there aren't outliers, like Cam Newton, but disorganization and sloppy play seems like it carries over with most rookies.

  • Pie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
strato Grand Master

strato

Posted
Posted

Well we wouldn’t have had to draft him specifically. 

1 minute ago, rayzor said:

one of Cam's first passes did some damage to smitty's hand...separated his middle and ring finger on one hand. that's about all i remember from him. 

Probably a 10 yard route and 70mph pass.

  • Pie 4
  • Flames 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
CRA Grand Master

CRA

Posted
Posted
7 minutes ago, Jaxel said:

This, OTA's at this point are a meaningless sign. Now if it's the same thing in pre-season, I think you'll have a good idea of how things will start out. Not to say there aren't outliers, like Cam Newton, but disorganization and sloppy play seems like it carries over with most rookies.

Ron actually did have sort of hidden O that didn’t really come out until the regular season.   It was such a college heavy look.  Basically what Frank pretended he had up his sleeve but didn’t .

defenses were facing something unique when Cam rolled out into the league.  With Bryce, it was just Frank standard junk with a QB that wasn’t able to challenge folks with the full field 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
mrcompletely11 Grand Master

mrcompletely11

Posted
Posted
13 minutes ago, CRA said:

Wasn’t Bryce praised as some vet type super player during all the camp work?   

Cam Newton struggled…until real football had to be played.  Then smashed the record books out the gate.  Ron couldn’t find the work to gift him the job over Clausen.  Think a run vs the Bengals is what Ron used as the reasoning (I mean it was good).  But Cam struggled until that week 1 game. 

You never know….

Cam had an awful awful rookie preseason. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
CRA Grand Master

CRA

Posted
Posted
9 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

Which is an outlier because preseason usually dictates the regular season? Right? 

Got to think Cam being so unique to defend in real games was a heavy factor.  League just had never dealt with what that O presented.   They had seen Vick mimics that run away from people.   Not dudes that could run over any of the 11 defenders.   It took a year of film on Cam.  That zone read struggled to open up year 2 once they adjusted on it 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
mrcompletely11 Grand Master

mrcompletely11

Posted
Posted
7 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

Which is an outlier because preseason usually dictates the regular season? Right? 

In how a player plays or the entire team?  Because last year was pretty spot on. 

Cams preseason games were brutal if I remember correctly.  But without me looking, and I dont think there are stats for preseason games that far back, cam didnt run much in those games.  Come regular season his mobility opened things up

Link to comment
Share on other sites
CRA Grand Master

CRA

Posted
Posted
1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

In how a player plays or the entire team?  Because last year was pretty spot on. 

Cams preseason games were brutal if I remember correctly.  But without me looking, and I dont think there are stats for preseason games that far back, cam didnt run much in those games.  Come regular season his mobility opened things up

Yeah, once the actual games the power Cam run plays started .  The designed run game.   Cam had to be defended different than preseason which was trying to grow his pass game paired with a neutered rush threat 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
 Share
Go to topic listing

  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • Steves89
      The "now it's been three years" Grade for the 2023 Draft

      By Steves89 · Posted

      Didn't  see this posted (since 2023) but since folks have been posting that you can't judge a draft class for three years (a ridiculous take), I thought I'd post this to see what people thought about the 2023 draft. Unfortunately this may not be the most interesting class to do this with but I do quite like retrospective draft grades. Would appreciate other's takes on this (and other recent) draft classes.   1(1) - Bryce Young QB: I am a bigger Bryce Young apologist than most (maybe all). I like the kid. But there is no way around it: This was a terrible pick. If he had been picked in the 4th or even the 3rd round I would feel pretty good about it. But this was the first overall pick that we gave up two firsts, our best offensive player to get.  GRADE: C -    2(39) - Jonathan Mingo WR: not much to say here here. He was here for two years. His yards per catch are on par with Bryce's yards per pass. Rough stuff. To date he has still never scored a touchdown in the NFL GRADE: F   3(80) - DJ Johnson OLB: a pick I hated as soon as it happened and an example of why the premise of this thread is honestly dumb. This was a bad pick when it happened. Most people knew it.  Then came training camp and he did not look good. Then came the preseason which confirmed what we saw in TC. Then came the season which confirmed what we saw in preseason. To date, he has half a sack in his career. GRADE: F 4 (114) Chandlers Zavala G: Honestly the best pick of this draft which really speaks to how awful this draft is. Other than Bryce, the only pick still on the team. He is mostly average or below average depth which in round 4 is not terrible. But he had a pff score of 43.5 and though I think people have unrealistic expectations for draft picks, I still would want a little more from a fourth round pick GRADE: C+   5 (145) - Jammie Robinson S: I liked the pick when it happened but ended up being a disappointment. He logged 1 tackle with the falcons last year and not enough snaps to get a grade on PFF.  GRADE: F OVERALL DRAFT GRADE: F  
    • Kuhndog94
      26 first goal playoff thread

      By Kuhndog94 · Posted

      You gonna make me post Stank before every game?  I kid, I kid. 
    • DavidEng
      NHL 2026 Playoff Thread

      By DavidEng · Posted

      Final Avs 9 Wild 6. Defense never entered the building lol.
×
×
  • Create New...