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Pete Carroll on Canales (New Fox Sports Article)

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Some summer fluff for your hump day.

Carroll and Canales convos, decent read.  Not learning a ton new, but it's something I guess haha.  Didn't realize Carrrol's son is here, must've missed that hire.

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"He's way better prepared as a young head coach than I was," Carroll said by phone last week. "I was totally unprepared. It took me a while — I had to get kicked around enough before I got going. He's got a much better runway to starting this. He's well-versed, he knows what's going on, he's very articulate. 

"So much of it is how well you can convey the message, and he's a really good communicator. I'm totally jacked about watching him, because he's ready to go."

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Carroll said no Seahawks assistant understood the system better than Canales.

"He has the background, the understanding, the philosophy and the principles, all of that," Carroll said. "He gets to use whatever he wants to. We did a lot of winning, a lot of good things, had our hardships, so he's had a really well-rounded experience."

https://www.foxsports.com/stories/nfl/pete-carroll-says-protege-dave-canales-show-panthers-what-can-become

 

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11 minutes ago, Bear Hands said:

Some summer fluff for your hump day.

Carroll and Canales convos, decent read.  Not learning a ton new, but it's something I guess haha.  Didn't realize Carrrol's son is here, must've missed that hire.

2024-06-03_Panthers-Coach-Dave-Canales_1

https://www.foxsports.com/stories/nfl/pete-carroll-says-protege-dave-canales-show-panthers-what-can-become

 

Did we ever get an answer on why pete bypass him for OC?

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There is absolutely no love lost for me regarding the Seattle Seahawks. But if Pete Carrol is saying things like this about Canales I will certainly listen and put some stock in it.

I'd love to see Dave have a coaching run here like Pete has had. No matter how I may feel about their franchise more often than not he generally always had them competing hard regardless of circumstances.

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2 hours ago, Mother Grabber said:

but the coaching gurus on here say he’s in over his head. 

That's not the phrasing I would use.  I don't think he has the QB to run the O he will run.  And you just have to look back 1 season to see how that goes. 

made a competent vet HC look like he had had never been around football before. 

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That's not the phrasing I would use.  I don't think he has the QB to run the O he will run.  And you just have to look back 1 season to see how that goes. 

made a competent vet HC look like he had had never been around football before. 

I'm pretty sure you have stated concerns about him being a first year HC after only being an OC once and wanting to call plays.  I would say that is thinking he is in over his head regardless of the QB situation.  I'm not saying you are wrong either as it is a valid concern.  Hopefully we show some patience with him to see what he can do.  

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3 minutes ago, Basbear said:

Twice!

Plus Seattle didn't even gift him a HC interview.

But but but he was loved dearly by Pete and Seattle......hogwash!!

Maybe not enough experience yet? They seemed to keep him around until another team offered him a promo, so they didn’t think too badly of him. WR coach to passing game coordinator to QB coach. 

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Maybe not enough experience yet? They seemed to keep him around until another team offered him a promo, so they didn’t think too badly of him. WR coach to passing game coordinator to QB coach. 

Maybe. You know he wanted that OC gig each time, I believe the last time they even stated he interviewed for the role. This was during the whole youth movement that mccvay started as well. 

Honestly I was hoping Seattle would have cut ties with pete, he would have been great here in a top mentor role. I don't think its talked about enough, they did Pete wrong. He made them a great NFL team for the first time in their history and gave them a SB. He's still in great shape by all reports and they just decided to go young. They even removed most of his pictures and quotes in the building. Sorta like what the pats did to bill, but waay worse. 

I guess I have too much loyalty for the new times, no chance either should been to out for retirement..

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Maybe. You know he wanted that OC gig each time, I believe the last time they even stated he interviewed for the role. This was during the whole youth movement that mccvay started as well. 

Honestly I was hoping Seattle would have cut ties with pete, he would have been great here in a top mentor role. I don't think its talked about enough, they did Pete wrong. He made them a great NFL team for the first time in their history and gave them a SB. He's still in great shape by all reports and they just decided to go young. They even removed most of his pictures and quotes in the building. Sorta like what the pats did to bill, but waay worse. 

I guess I have too much loyalty for the new times, no chance either should been to out for retirement..

Pete ain't been right since he leaned on Wilosn and lost a SB. Great coach but still

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Pete ain't been right since he leaned on Wilosn and lost a SB. Great coach but still

He was very mistakenly trying to appease Russell Wilson. They both got what they deserved. The only one in that I felt remotely bad for was Marshawn Lynch. Without him they don't make either title run. He was the engine of that team.

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He was very mistakenly trying to appease Russell Wilson. They both got what they deserved. The only one in that I felt remotely bad for was Marshawn Lynch. Without him they don't make either title run. He was the engine of that team.

But he was his own man and they wanted their guy to be the hero. Can't fault him longterm for going with the QB over a RB but that SB showed he would chose his way to lose vs doing what it takes to win another one.

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