Jump to content
  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

C Mays / LT Christensen LT vs C Christensen / LT Ekwonu


Mr. Scot
 Share

Recommended Posts

6 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

BC looked good against a bad Saints defense. Icky has been solid at LT all year and still hasn’t reached his ceiling. I kind of like BC at center. 

Saints have been terrible since week 2 and they were missing both top CBs. Much easier to protect when their pass rush is meh and the WRs can get open easily.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

3 hours ago, ForJimmy said:

BC looked good against a bad Saints defense. Icky has been solid at LT all year and still hasn’t reached his ceiling. I kind of like BC at center. 

I also think it says a lot about Nijman that they thought BC at LT and Mays at C was a better combo than Nijman at LT and BC at C.

  • Pie 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

4 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

I think this is basically just tinkering with no possible good end result. If you wanted to try for that in the offseason, I would be fine with that but if you don't like Ekwonu's feet at LT, you REALLY aren't going to like Hunt/Lewis, IMO.

A smarter move would be to eventually shoot for an eventual move for Ikey to RT when Moton retires/moves on and then get a good(needs to be better) LT in the draft.

At least if you go that route you are planning for the future.

I don't know that Christensen is necessarily a long-term solution at left tackle (though I do believe he's better at that position than some give him credit for). My favorite spot for him is as our utility guy.

I've mentioned before that Ickey to right tackle is a move I could get on board with. Moton is still our best option there right now, but for how much longer? 

Biggest deal for me is still that I want us to get a true center. I don't see Christensen as the future there...and I'm still pissed off that we passed on Zach Frazier 🤬

So basically, an offseason plan of moving Ekwonu right, getting a true center and a top left tackle would be a great plan for me.

  • Pie 2
  • Beer 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

10 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I don't know that Christensen is necessarily a long-term solution at left tackle (though I do believe he's better at that position than some give him credit for). My favorite spot for him is as our utility guy.

I've mentioned before that Ickey to right tackle is a move I could get on board with. Moton is still our best option there right now, but for how much longer? 

Biggest deal for me is still that I want us to get a true center. I don't see Christensen as the future there...and I'm still pissed off that we passed on Zach Frazier 🤬

So basically, an offseason plan of moving Ekwonu right, getting a true center and a top left tackle would be a great plan for me.

Seems like a lot of change and investment  in a unit that is already decent on a roster that has many holes… Next year we just need to figure out center. 

  • Pie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

27 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I don't know that Christensen is necessarily a long-term solution at left tackle (though I do believe he's better at that position than some give him credit for). My favorite spot for him is as our utility guy.

I've mentioned before that Ickey to right tackle is a move I could get on board with. Moton is still our best option there right now, but for how much longer? 

Biggest deal for me is still that I want us to get a true center. I don't see Christensen as the future there...and I'm still pissed off that we passed on Zach Frazier 🤬

So basically, an offseason plan of moving Ekwonu right, getting a true center and a top left tackle would be a great plan for me.

I would hesitate to jettison Moton until we have our LT in place, unless he chooses to go or we have to do it for cap reasons.

I agree on center. Passing on Frazier was absolutely moronic. TBH, not 100% sure we will be able to get that this offseason but we should target before the start of the 2026 season without any question.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

How quickly we forget the Atlanta game. Brady was the reason a few of our drives stalled as Grady Jarrett single handedly beat him across his face to tackle Chuba for big losses. That hadn't happened to Corbett all year. Ickey has played solid and graded out well this year. Now once Moton retires, moves on, we will have a place to start BC. Whether that is at LT or RT remains to be seen, but Cade played better at C yesterday than BC. BC is not the future at center, but right tackle.

  • Beer 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

7 minutes ago, NorthTryon said:

How quickly we forget the Atlanta game. Brady was the reason a few of our drives stalled as Grady Jarrett single handedly beat him across his face to tackle Chuba for big losses. That hadn't happened to Corbett all year. Ickey has played solid and graded out well this year. Now once Moton retires, moves on, we will have a place to start BC. Whether that is at LT or RT remains to be seen, but Cade played better at C yesterday than BC. BC is not the future at center, but right tackle.

That's true, he was getting literally rag dolled by Jarrett.

Mays is definitely worse but he is a stronger dude.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

16 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

That's true, he was getting literally rag dolled by Jarrett.

Mays is definitely worse but he is a stronger dude.

I just want somebody to settle into that Hangartner role and I may give Mays too much credit. He played so well early and has fell off since injuries crept into his vocabulary.  He was struggling to get push on those goal line runs today. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

35 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I would hesitate to jettison Moton until we have our LT in place, unless he chooses to go or we have to do it for cap reasons.

I agree on center. Passing on Frazier was absolutely moronic. TBH, not 100% sure we will be able to get that this offseason but we should target before the start of the 2026 season without any question.

Not suggesting Moton be jettisoned. Just wondering how much longer he's around.

54 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

Seems like a lot of change and investment  in a unit that is already decent on a roster that has many holes… Next year we just need to figure out center. 

Possible, but you never know.

6 minutes ago, NorthTryon said:

I just want somebody to settle into that Hangartner role and I may give Mays too much credit. He played so well early and has fell off since injuries crept into his vocabulary.  He was struggling to get push on those goal line runs today. 

I think that's Christensen's role.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

39 minutes ago, NorthTryon said:

I just want somebody to settle into that Hangartner role and I may give Mays too much credit. He played so well early and has fell off since injuries crept into his vocabulary.  He was struggling to get push on those goal line runs today. 

I think he was always a replacement level player. Best suited as a backup, at best.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I'd like to see the final stretch of games this year with a consitent unit of Icky-Lewis-BC-Hunt-Moton. They seem to be our strongest group together but haven't played a ton together due to injury. 

If/when we move on from Moton, I think Icky would be the better RT and keep BC at LT. IDK if Mays or Raym is the answer at C, but the latter could be a gem with another year or so under his belt. After seeing what Coker and Richardson have done for us in the UDFA market, testing out a true C from a school like OU gives me hope. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

 Share


  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • I gave you a full breakdown and examples from last year as to why I think it's unfair to expect 1k from T-Mac this year if everyone stays healthy. But the TLDR version is we will have 4 legitimately good WRs next year, most rookies who get to 1,000 yards don't have any others on the team with them let alone 3 others, it will be hard for him to put up 1k with out the others being injured or falling short of expectations themselves, but in 2026 without Thielen it's different.
    • Ulcerative Colitis is not CTE. 
    • Last year Thielen had 615 yards in 10 games (had more ypg than his 1k season in 23).  XL had 497 in 16 games with tons of drops and Coker had 478 in 11. They also only had only 192 of our 518 targets to get those numbers. So if Thielen has 1,000 yards again, XL and Coker each improve to say 600 yards each, and T-Mac comes in at 800 yards, you're going to say that's not good enough?  Especially if he ends up with close to, if not getting to, double digit TD's like I think he will, as he's going to be a red zone monster for Bryce? Because if that's the breakdown of just the Top 4 and Bryce plays all 17 games, he's going to be pushing a 4,000 yard season as the TEs, RBs, and other WRs will probably add up to 750-1k yards as well, and I think that would be far more than anyone here could be expecting of him this season. Last year the Giants only had 2 players with more than 331 yards besides Nabers and they were 699 and 573 while Nabers "only" had 1,200 yards (granted in 15 games).  While the Jags second leading receiving was a TE with 411 yards and BTJ also "only" had 1,282 but in all 17 games. Odunze couldn't get there (734 in 17 games) with Moore and Allen there, just as McConkey was able to get there because his competition for targets was Quentin Johnson (711 yards), Josh Palmer (584), and Will Dissly (481) who I think Thielen, XL, and Coker are all better than any of them. If everyone stays healthy and XL/Coker have improved, I think Bryce is going to spread the ball around rather than focus on T-Mac in a way that most of the 1k rookies have been able to get. Again I point to MHJ and the Cardinals last year. They had 3,859 yards receiving.   McBride had 1,146, MHJ had 885, then their 3rd and 4th in rec yards were 548 and 414. Take the 146 and 85 that McBride/MHJ had over my example for our guys and give them to the other two and they get to 7 yards shy of the 600 I'm using for XL/Coker, while the rest of the team added up to 866 yards. So, if you expect T-Mac to get to 1k, where are you taking those yards from? if anything, XL and Coker each getting 600 yards seems like a low projection, so they wouldn't come from there. Maybe they come from Thielen now that we have T-Mac as the true #1.  But I think if anything, having T-Mac draw attention will just make it easier for Thielen to get open and him and Bryce have great chemistry already, he's not going to stop throwing his way if he can pick up easy chunks of yards there. So maybe they come from the RBs, TEs, other WRs, but it's I think a very fair example to show why expecting 1,000 yards if everyone stays healthy isn't necessarily fair to him. It's also why I said I'd then expect at least 1,200 yards in 2026, as once Thielen leave and all 3 of T-Mac/XL/Coker get better, they absorb that 1,000 yards Thielen leaves behind with T-Mac probably taking close to half of it and the other two splitting up the other half.
×
×
  • Create New...