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Panthers vs. Giants in München


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1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

That's the problem. Average starter get PAID and then that cap noose dooms your team. Look at our opponent for a great example.

Agreed. You have to be smart when it comes to making those decisions. 

But, we also WANT Bryce to keep getting better because in that scenario we can get more compensation for moving him.

That's where I don't get the obsessions with rooting against him. That's literally a lose-lose.

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Just now, Move the Panthers to Raleigh said:

I’m happy Bryce is playing well, but I still want Cam Ward

Completely fair take... just can't understand the straight hate when Bryce is playing good with a bunch of rookies.

Nobody nationally follows this team.  If this were ARod playing like this with rookies, he would be glazed for producing with nobodies... any rational NFL viewer should be able to admit that 

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3 minutes ago, Shocker said:

Bryce isn’t there yet but if you can’t feel good about his improvement I feel for you

Everything has to be taken in context. We're playing a bottom of the barrel pass defense and we have folks spiking the ball over 113 yards through three quarters. That kinda says all that needs to be said.

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Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

Everything has to be taken in context. We're playing a bottom of the barrel pass defense and we have folks spiking the ball over 124 yards through three quarters. That kinda says all that needs to be said.

I mean Jones doesn’t have a ton of air yards either.

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1 minute ago, Shocker said:

Bryce isn’t there yet but if you can’t feel good about his improvement I feel for you

The realty is that Bryce's improvement puts him back about where he was last year, and even steps beyond that only gets into low-end starter territory. Feel good for him? Sure, I guess. Feel good for the team? Still not anywhere near good enough in the long run and need to see it continue week in and out for the rest of the season. At the end of the year, if the improvement continues and consistency is starting to show, then perhaps that is worth feeling good about.

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    • Nobody is giving up a 4th rounder for a backup QB And anyone who needs a starter badly enough to where Bryce would then be their starter, is such a bad team that they're not giving up a pick likely to be about pick 105ish overall, instead of just dealing with a bad QB situation for a season and then drafting one in a loaded QB draft next year. I'm looking through all the teams right now and can't think of a single one that would be willing to part with anything better than a 6th rounder. Barring injuries (and excluding the Panthers), there look to be 10 teams who don't know with 100% certainty who their starting QB will be in 2027... Dolphins, Jets, Browns, Steelers, Vikings, Colts, Saints, Falcons, Cardinals, and Rams. Of those 10...  The Rams know it will be Stafford or Simpson.  The Saints more than likely will be sticking with Shough unless he takes a huge step backwards.  So neither are giving up any draft picks for Bryce right now, just wouldn't make sense for either. Down to 8 Given their current QB situation of having multiple QBs they already need to evaluate between this year, the Browns (Shedeur/Watson), Vikings (Kyler/JJ), Colts (Jones/Richardson/Leonard), and Falcons (Penix/Tua), wouldn't be giving up a 4th (or maybe any pick) to bring in another QB to muddy the waters even more. Down to 4 Dolphins just signed Willis and wouldn't want to bring in another small Alabama QB who has struggled after just dumping Tua instead of just rolling with Ewers as the backup.   That then leaves the Steelers, Cardinals, and Jets left as it's clear none of them have any idea who their 2027 could be as of right now.  But the Steelers would for sure rather just see what one of the 2 QB's they drafted in the last 2 drafts could become than give up a mid round pick for Bryce.  Same goes for the Cardinals in taking Beck this past weekend. The Jets would be the most likely team to even consider taking him on, but I think it seems very apparent right now given them rolling with Geno and now talk of bringing in Wilson to be his backup, they're punting on QB this year to draft someone next year, so why give up even a mid round pick for Bryce?
    • Honestly I am not sure Pickett couldn’t step in for him. But I don’t see a clear easy upgrade and we are not KC with Alex Smith we are a team that hadn’t done poo for almost ten years and just made the playoffs. And looked good in the game. That stadium atmosphere on that day…. you know Tepper ate that poo up. Not one drink has been thrown in a while.  You had better make sure if you replaced him after that that you had a sure fire upgrade. 
    • Makes sense. If Bryce is ass this year, we are probably drafting our new QB next draft and sitting him behind Bryce for a year
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