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Young vs WIlliams over the past three games


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4 hours ago, Icege said:

People acted as if he didn't do any offseason work and just watched Netflix. Let's not pretend that wasn't the case. They spun it as if Bryce watched Netflix all offseason the same way folks have spun the AR quote as if he were saying it's easier to play against NFL players rather than with them.

It blew me away that was his answer. I was no fan of his draft wise, but he's a panther. He should done everything in the off-season to better himself. I never had BY stock, but everyone should have sold that moment. 

 

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5 hours ago, NorthTryon said:

The reason I brought this up in the first place was his mindset. Saying at any point the NFL is easier than college is nonsense and a person who is strong mentally would never say that. Now he is the guy his teammates cannot depend on because he isn't strong mentally(ex: pulling himself out of a game). 

In some aspects it might be. Take away classes, life on campus, limited practice time and lesser players and certain parts of the game might be easier. Not to say that they all are by any stretch, but I could see a couple things being easier to deal with than at the college level. 

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1 hour ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

In some aspects it might be. Take away classes, life on campus, limited practice time and lesser players and certain parts of the game might be easier. Not to say that they all are by any stretch, but I could see a couple things being easier to deal with than at the college level. 

Lmao classes look at this guy 

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On 11/11/2024 at 6:46 PM, LinvilleGorge said:

Williams is definitely regressing and Bryce is doing what he can to maximize his skills but Williams still has significant upside that Bryce just doesn't have. We're still basically running a redzone offense all over the field because Bryce can't stretch the defense beyond that.

We aren’t watching the same games. Bryce has been throwing down the field plenty. 

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1 hour ago, AceBoogie said:

We aren’t watching the same games. Bryce has been throwing down the field plenty. 

Stop lying to yourself.

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For the record, that looks like 3/11 with 3 INTs on attempts 20+ yards. He has literally thrown as many balls to the opponent as he has his own team when throwing 20+ yards. 1 attempt 30+ yards.

If you meant only since he came back from his benching, he's 2/5 with an INT when throwing over 20 yards. He threw one ball over 20 yards last week and to his credit he completed it. It was 21 yards.

The guy is not throwing the ball down the field.

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So they didn't give him an INT on the XL ball. 

He is trying. I see him trying to hang in there and step into his throws. I will give him that. He has gotten it out past 12 yards more often. But he isn't hitting on much downfield. And I don't think he will be able to, with any consistency. Let's remember that one of those completions was a prayer. 

And how many were there? 

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16 minutes ago, strato said:

So they didn't give him an INT on the XL ball. 

He is trying. I see him trying to hang in there and step into his throws. I will give him that. He has gotten it out past 12 yards more often. But he isn't hitting on much downfield. And I don't think he will be able to, with any consistency. Let's remember that one of those completions was a prayer. 

And how many were there? 

Yep, I have no problem with people say that he has improved. It's just this attempted narrative that he's "turned the corner" and is looking like a legit starter that blows my mind. He has improved from someone who looked like he didn't belong on an NFL roster to looking like a guy who might be able to carve out a career as a backup. He's doing a good job of doing what he can on an NFL field it's just that his physical limitations are very obvious.

I don't blame Bryce for that. Those limitations were obvious on his college tape too. Just like Caleb William's flaws were - he holds the ball forever, takes a lot of bad sacks, and he's a diva. It was all there to be seen.

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13 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Yep, I have no problem with people say that he has improved. It's just this attempted narrative that he's "turned the corner" and is looking like a legit starter that blows my mind. He has improved from someone who looked like he didn't belong on an NFL roster to looking like a guy who might be able to carve out a career as a backup. He's doing a good job of doing what he can on an NFL field it's just that his physical limitations are very obvious.

I don't blame Bryce for that. Those limitations were obvious on his college tape too. Just like Caleb William's flaws were - he holds the ball forever, takes a lot of bad sacks, and he's a diva. It was all there to be seen.

I can't wait to try something else. 

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47 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

He really hasn’t. 

He's not throwing many turnover worthy balls now. That in and of itself is a big improvement. He's also showing more ability to fit balls into coverage within twenty yards of the LOS. He's definitely improved he just doesn't have the physical talent to be a starter. I'm honestly not sure he has much higher ceiling than what he's currently showing.

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6 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

He's not throwing many turnover worthy balls now. That in and of itself is a big improvement. He's also showing more ability to fit balls into coverage within twenty yards of the LOS. He's definitely improved he just doesn't have the physical talent to be a starter. I'm honestly not sure he has much higher ceiling than what he's currently showing.

Gun to your head: Bryce or Nathan Peterman

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