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"Setting the table" for the NFL offseason

Mr. Scot

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Basbear Grand Master

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On 11/17/2024 at 10:27 AM, scpanther22 said:

McCarthy was an insane hire from the start ...Rogers made his whole HC career 

 

Im no fan, but my god the man has had three 12 wins in row, that's insanely great. 

 

But if you bring up playoffs, I fold lighting fast...

 

he's still gone.

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At this rate Morgan and Canales will be back and we will probably get some stability for the first time in years. I think Evero goes though. 

HC vacancies?

Locks

NYJ- Saleh Already Fired

New Orleans- Allen Already Fired

NYG- Daboll gets fired unless miracle occurs.

Dallas- Jones fired McCarthy

Jacksonville- Pederson is done.

Maybe?

Browns- Stefanski but not really his fault

Bears- Eberflus should have been fired last year

Raiders- Pierce has been a huge let down after ending 2023 with good momentum.

 

Which brings me to my next point- would you keep Evero with Dennis Allen, Robert Saleh, Matt Eberflus, Patrick Graham, Shane Bowen, and Jim Schwartz all available for DC? Possibly even Vrabel since I don't see a HC role in his near future.

 

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4 hours ago, ProcessBlue2 said:

At this rate Morgan and Canales will be back and we will probably get some stability for the first time in years. I think Evero goes though. 

HC vacancies?

Locks

NYJ- Saleh Already Fired

New Orleans- Allen Already Fired

NYG- Daboll gets fired unless miracle occurs.

Dallas- Jones fired McCarthy

Jacksonville- Pederson is done.

Maybe?

Browns- Stefanski but not really his fault

Bears- Eberflus should have been fired last year

Raiders- Pierce has been a huge let down after ending 2023 with good momentum.

 

Which brings me to my next point- would you keep Evero with Dennis Allen, Robert Saleh, Matt Eberflus, Patrick Graham, Shane Bowen, and Jim Schwartz all available for DC? Possibly even Vrabel since I don't see a HC role in his near future.

 

I could see Stefanski staying one more year mainly because the Deshaun Watson contract is such an albatross that I read the soonest they might be able to cut him is after next season as a post-June 1 cut. 

Bears have a bad habit drafing a QB high and then canning the HC one year afterwards. Firing Eberflus would continue the pattern. 

I think Raiders had a lot of injuries which explains their struggles. Normally, I'd say Pierce will get another shot but with Brady now having part ownership, who knows.

Someone else mentioned it but I have to wonder if there's thoughts within the building about switching back to a 4-3, especially with Morgan as the GM and our defense being bare bones on talent which gives us an opening to transition with brand new players. This obviously makes Evero expendable and there's people out there like Robert Saleh who can run a 4-3 defense. 

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9 hours ago, ProcessBlue2 said:

At this rate Morgan and Canales will be back and we will probably get some stability for the first time in years. I think Evero goes though. 

HC vacancies?

Locks

NYJ- Saleh Already Fired

New Orleans- Allen Already Fired

NYG- Daboll gets fired unless miracle occurs.

Dallas- Jones fired McCarthy

Jacksonville- Pederson is done.

Maybe?

Browns- Stefanski but not really his fault

Bears- Eberflus should have been fired last year

Raiders- Pierce has been a huge let down after ending 2023 with good momentum.

 

Which brings me to my next point- would you keep Evero with Dennis Allen, Robert Saleh, Matt Eberflus, Patrick Graham, Shane Bowen, and Jim Schwartz all available for DC? Possibly even Vrabel since I don't see a HC role in his near future.

 

Giants owner already said Daboll and GM are safe.

https://sports.yahoo.com/giants-owner-john-mara-says-brian-dabolls-and-joe-schoens-jobs-are-safe-declines-to-address-daniel-jones-020033472.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAHOt9vWsoPjVNcP7ZltXja92fQN9Qboc_xJbzZPoq0lrTE_zb_aSQBmFLCYx4gcBr8Arj5uHxOrKDjAWBF8F5g8nFa6wWkfCoiJlzECWsJoaY6iyO-rK9S1sAwVvFTWWWMB_AVYFDCBwgGni8foOyXjZ5nPTXXnVgjgOxazMwOR2

https://www.si.com/nfl/adam-schefter-brian-daboll-joe-schoen-job-security

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/41969928/giants-committed-daboll-schoen-2-5-start-mara-says

 

And McCarthy will be let go not fired. His contract ends after this season. He won't be extended but won't be fired.

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9 hours ago, ProcessBlue2 said:

At this rate Morgan and Canales will be back and we will probably get some stability for the first time in years. I think Evero goes though. 

HC vacancies?

Locks

NYJ- Saleh Already Fired

New Orleans- Allen Already Fired

NYG- Daboll gets fired unless miracle occurs.

Dallas- Jones fired McCarthy

Jacksonville- Pederson is done.

Maybe?

Browns- Stefanski but not really his fault

Bears- Eberflus should have been fired last year

Raiders- Pierce has been a huge let down after ending 2023 with good momentum.

 

Which brings me to my next point- would you keep Evero with Dennis Allen, Robert Saleh, Matt Eberflus, Patrick Graham, Shane Bowen, and Jim Schwartz all available for DC? Possibly even Vrabel since I don't see a HC role in his near future.

 

If he wants to stay then yes. I don't really think it's in the teams hands.  

I'm leery of constantly changing course.  Ideally he wants to stay and doesn't get hired away and we give him a draft.

 

 

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5 hours ago, outlaw4 said:

Someone else mentioned it but I have to wonder if there's thoughts within the building about switching back to a 4-3, especially with Morgan as the GM and our defense being bare bones on talent which gives us an opening to transition with brand new players. This obviously makes Evero expendable and there's people out there like Robert Saleh who can run a 4-3 defense. 

I think if you are going to stay in a 3-4 you just keep Evero. I can see them going back to a 4-3 especially with the defensive struggles this year. We still haven't transitioned to a 3-4 and most of our players are flexible. Morgan played in a 4-3 and Seattle/Buffalo both ran 4-3s as well. 

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59 minutes ago, Joe Bear said:

Last good 3-4 team here was 1996.

And the guy that ran it is mentoring Evero. Which is a kind of a strange but true thing. 
 

I agree that if a change is in order this is the time. Before we add players to the little we have. 
Once you do you have taken steps down a path so you need to be sure that you won’t want to do the opposite next year. 

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