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Oh boy, yet another hot take.

How about this?

We stuck with one of the best teams in the league and had a shot to win it in the end. We didn't but there's a crapload of bettors that just lost a ton of money vs. the spread. 

We're playing for next year right now and rookie WRs have games like this.

Y'all loved the heck out of him when he was riding Dolla Dolla Bill in the end zone. He'll do that more in the future.

 

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2 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

Oh boy, yet another hot take.

How about this?

We stuck with one of the best teams in the league and had a shot to win it in the end. We didn't but there's a crapload of bettors that just lost a ton of money vs. the spread. 

We're playing for next year right now and rookie WRs have games like this.

Y'all loved the heck out of him when he was riding Dolla Dolla Bill in the end zone. He'll do that more in the future.

 

It's not another hot take.  Most people agree he has terrible hands and is not dependable right now. 

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he can and probably still will develop into a good player

but you consider the kind of QB Bryce is, playing the game with his head, you mesh that with how much synergy he has with Adam theilen, who plays with the same awareness, and you wonder why they didn’t like Ladd McConkey more. 

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11 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

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If Tmac is not available I still think we need to take the next best WR. So who else is on your board at WR besides Tmac?

There's no good answer here

I've said numerous times I'm not touching Hunter even if he's there, and Burden is the next up in the draft, but he's a slot WR and not worth a Top 5 pick anyways, no way I'm taking him there (and if I'm trading back, I'm not doing it to take a WR, it's to get additional draft picks and taking an edge rusher at a draft slot that makes sense for the prospect).

Not a fan of taking ANOTHER 2nd round WR and hoping they pan out, I'd say to target someone like a DK Metcalf who the Seahawks might not want to give a new contract to, but not like we have the right assets to even make a serious offer as there is no way in hell I'm giving up future 1st round picks.

Overpay for Higgins?  Even though I really don't want to use our cap room on offense.

Go another year without a true #1?

That feels like the final answer unfortunately 

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