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I know most of y'all want defense but currently at pick 4...

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I think the front office has shown they want to surround bryce with the tools to succeed by trading away defensive(and offensive) pieces to put him in the best position to win. Your currently sitting at pick 4 with a real chance of the top 2 picks being QB and new England logically could go LT or Hunter coin flip.

If you are on the clock at 4 with a chance to grab a an elite peice for bryce, because let's face it he still doesn't have that. None of our current offensive options are number 1 options on any team. If you want to maximize Bryce I don't see how you go defense at this spot unless the pick is Hunter.

With hunter I think he is the only viable pick that can improve both sides of the ball in some fashion. No not  a full time starter on both but, you would be a fool to not sprinkle him in on which ever side that is not his main position.  I see the love for Graham and I like him but a run stopping defensive tackle in the top 4?  Unlikely.. the value just isn't there. He's a great player and if I'm picking between 6-10 he's in the cards.  

We have seen if you want Jamar Chase, Nabers those type talents they go high... That's what Bryce needs to take the next step. I do love Abdul Carter if hunter goes Number 3 to New England.. but at pick 4 I think those are the only 2 options right now. 

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Hunter or Tmac for me.

 

Hunter and Horn DB tandem would be great and we still have Brown in the middle at DT. That's a solid foundation to start building this defense. Also Hunter is a playmaker if he gets a INT he's looking to score. He's gonna put points on he board for the defense.

 

Tmac he's quite simply the only real true #1 WR in this draft. If you can give Bryce that kind of weapon it takes the offense to another level.

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1 minute ago, CBDellinger said:

Just go BPA with stop 5 pick.  

I don't think that term really exists. Everything is weighted.. Say Sanders is on the board and is the boa you not going to take him.. or that tackle who is currently top 5.. you not going to take him. Everything is weighted to some degree to fill a gap.

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4 minutes ago, micnificent28 said:

I don't think that term really exists. Everything is weighted.. Say Sanders is on the board and is the boa you not going to take him.. or that tackle who is currently top 5.. you not going to take him. Everything is weighted to some degree to fill a gap.

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21 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Hunter or Tmac for me.

 

Hunter and Horn DB tandem would be great and we still have Brown in the middle at DT. That's a solid foundation to start building this defense. Also Hunter is a playmaker if he gets a INT he's looking to score. He's gonna put points on he board for the defense.

 

Tmac he's quite simply the only real true #1 WR in this draft. If you can give Bryce that kind of weapon it takes the offense to another level.

That's it, if neither are there, trade down. I love Mason but not at 4, trade down to 8 and get an extra 4th rounder. 

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31 minutes ago, micnificent28 said:

I don't think that term really exists. Everything is weighted.. Say Sanders is on the board and is the boa you not going to take him.. or that tackle who is currently top 5.. you not going to take him. Everything is weighted to some degree to fill a gap.

I'd take the tackle in a heartbeat if he grades that high

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18 minutes ago, Panthero said:

That's it, if neither are there, trade down. I love Mason but not at 4, trade down to 8 and get an extra 4th rounder. 

That trade down nets us at minimum and extra round 2 pick 4 spots in the first round hold a lot of value but yea I def like the thought of a trade down two 2nd round picks with Graham.

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Hopefully free agency will set up round 1 for BPA. So depending how we go in free agency will dictate which direction we draft, but you have to get a DUDE in round 1. If we can get Hunter, he has to be used on both sides of the ball. So that can be designed plays on offense if he is our #1 CB and vice versa. There is only one true #1 WR And that can go a long way for Young going forward. 
 

Either way you look at it we have to get a DUDE in round 1.

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3 minutes ago, csx said:

I'd take the tackle in a heartbeat if he grades that high

I mean how... Where does he play? You benching icky.. benching moton?  Offensive line is a strength right now. Best since 2008.. if you take a tackle at 4 it doesn't make us much better at all.

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27 minutes ago, Panthero said:

That's it, if neither are there, trade down. I love Mason but not at 4, trade down to 8 and get an extra 4th rounder. 

Let’s not get cute with this draft pick. Can you sit there right now and believe in our front office to get this right? as it stands now, if we hold the number four pick then we should just get who we want to get or whoever is the best available in that position.
 

Time and time again we have seen our team fail in the draft with getting it right. I like what we have done so far, but I still don’t have the confidence in them with this trade down proposal. They will find a way to screw it up.

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