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Bryce Young May Be The Answer

Hoenheim

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CPF4LIFE Grand Master

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2 hours ago, electro's horse said:

What other qb is Bryce allowed to be compared to? This is a serious question 

just list what qbs over the last two years you think he’s had comparable talent to because it’s exhausting reading people come up with reasons 31 other qbs have it better than Bryce

This. And I'm just trying to understand it. Who else has a o line this good?  He had 6 more yards passing then chuba had rushing yards, a lot of points came off turnovers and short field. So is he only a franchise qb when we can run the ball? Cuz that's all it's really been. 

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3 minutes ago, CPF4LIFE said:

This. And I'm just trying to understand it. Who else has a o line this good?  He had 6 more yards passing then chuba had rushing yards, a lot of points came off turnovers and short field. So is he only a franchise qb when we can run the ball? Cuz that's all it's really been. 

I’m sure you remember people on this very board calling cam newton a bust in 2012 and saying all the predraft criticism was right. 

Bryce will never even sniff cams 2012 production. Unreal how far this franchise has fallen that people are going to the mat for this mediocrity elemental. 

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11 hours ago, Hoenheim said:

Since the benching, he's been playing pretty damn well. That Cowboys games scared me into thinking he may have reverted to his earlier self from his first 18 games of his career, but wow does he look much better. 

17/26, 158 passing yards,  65% completions, 2 passing TDs, 0 INTs . 5 rushes 68 rushing yards, 13.6 yards per carry, 1 rushing TD.  HELL of a day. most important stat. NO TURNOVERS vs 3 total TDs he accounted for.

And this is coming from a Bryce Young hater. He hasn't converted me yet to believing he's the long term answer, but he's made huge strides in making me eat crow. 

I saw some pin-point throws today and over the last few games that have been really encouraging. I saw him complete a pass while taking a gargantuan hit and get up and smile. I saw him running around like he was Kyler Murray today lol. 

If this dude can get us out of the mud next year and lead us to a winning season or playoff berth. I'll officially be a Bryce Believer. Until then, lets just say im cautiously optimistic.

 

So what is the goal? Let him lead us to mediocrity for 5 yrs? 

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He’s the man for 2025 and I hope he can continue to inch forward. There isn’t much on the market for next year. What do you guys bashing Bryce expect us to do? Pay Darnold 25-30mil to come back? Bring in Rush? Would he be any better? Fields could get same type contract Dalton got. We need to get him a quick WR then load up on defense. You can continue to bash Bryce if you want, but there aren’t really better options in the immediate future. And all these 5th yr seniors In the draft are the same age as him.

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10 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

If that was an option absolutely but I can’t imagine they wouldn’t at least demand a sign and trade. 

How does a team demand a sign and trade from an unrestricted free agent? 

What would he ever do that? 

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4 hours ago, electro's horse said:

I’m sure you remember people on this very board calling cam newton a bust in 2012 and saying all the predraft criticism was right. 

Bryce will never even sniff cams 2012 production. Unreal how far this franchise has fallen that people are going to the mat for this mediocrity elemental. 

After everything we gave up, he should be close to 2015 Cam entering his 3rd year yet he cant even sniff Cam`s first or second seasons. Only thing we can hope for is Dave doesnt keep hanging on to Bryce after continuously showing he aint that guy next season.

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46 minutes ago, KillerKat said:

After everything we gave up, he should be close to 2015 Cam entering his 3rd year yet he cant even sniff Cam`s first or second seasons. Only thing we can hope for is Dave doesnt keep hanging on to Bryce after continuously showing he aint that guy next season.

Tepper has never shown a frustrating level patience with anything.  Fair to say it was Dave’s decision or at the least stamped by Dave to bench Bryce Young 2 games into this season (which was barely 1 full season of games before he was basically willing to move on).  Bryce got back do to injury and sort of slowly got the spot back by default/no choice.

Nothing is actually a given going forward. Dave is a bad owner.   Dave does apparently see meh on football field and generally moves away from it.  Issue is always the new direction he chooses isn’t always wise.  But he throws away weak hands quicker than almost anyone in the NFL

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    • mrcompletely11
      Dan Morgan: Panthers will pickup BY’s 5th year.

      By mrcompletely11 · Posted

      we are not talking about the 5th we are talking about bryce being one of if not the worst starter in the nfl for the past 3 years.  Dont move the goalposts my man
    • XClown1986
      Dan Morgan: Panthers will pickup BY’s 5th year.

      By XClown1986 · Posted

      The issue is the position Bryce plays. Finding a good/great quarterback isn't easy. Plus, it sometimes takes years for these guys to actually become good/great. What you have to look for is progress instead of regression. Bryce has shown that. Can he put it all together? We don't know yet. But that's why you place a smaller bet with the 5th year option, and wait to see. You could be wrong and lose your 30 mil bet, but you didn't hitch your wagon long-term and lose much more.
    • woahfraze
      Dan Morgan: Panthers will pickup BY’s 5th year.

      By woahfraze · Posted

      Absolutely not. That’s too much for replacement level player. Bryce may be that. Or he may turn into something more. If you can’t see the flashes, you’re willfully blind. There’s more bad than good right now, but there’s less bad than there was earlier in his career. He’s only 24 and he’s showing signs of improvement. He may never become consistent enough to justify a long term contract, but he’s shown enough to roll the dice on what effectively will turn into a 2 year, $30MM contract for the next two years to see if he can earn something longer.    Sure, in his one season starting, Howell managed to throw for 3,946 yards and toss 21 TDs, but it took throwing the ball an astounding 612 times. He also threw 21 INTs (for a particularly egregious 3.4 INT%). For all the talk of him being a deep ball thrower, he still only averaged 6.4 YPA, with an average air yards of 5.6 yards per attempt. And for all the excuses of Washington’s line giving him no protection (65 sacks taken that year), he was only pressured on 22.7% of his dropbacks, which is a few percentage points lower than what Bryce has had to deal with each year (24.2, 26.7, and 24.0%).    These are all numbers that are at best roughly equivalent to Bryce’s production the past two years. It’s wild to me people can claim so confidently that he’s a better QB. 
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