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We have a franchise QB

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3 hours ago, KSpan said:

Think what you like, it's a moot point until next year anyway. I hope that Carolina continues to keep competition for Bryce, as that seems to have been a motivator for him this year. Don't fix what isn't broken.

Hold up. Let me get this straight, cause maybe I'm trippin.

So the Panthers need 2 more WRs (one to start at the X), a backup RB that'll get 10+ touches a game, at least one starting edge rusher, a starting ILB, a starting FS, and a new DC because they were the worst defense in the history of the NFL. But they should use high draft capital or salary cap for a backup QB that hopefully will never see the field. All because Bryce Young needs competition to push him to improve.

Boy if you don't stop...

 

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7 minutes ago, outlaw4 said:

I still remember RG3 being called a franchise QB and argued by the media as better than Cam. That certainly didn't age well in retrospect. As such, I really don't like using that term until well after the fact.

No real point anointing Bryce Young as anything more than the unquestioned starter for 2025. Honestly, going into this season, that's the best outcome we could've hoped for. 

I mean on the surface your point isn't invalid about waiting to see further results.

But Mike Shanahan pretty much nuked Robert Griffin's career to the point where I say honestly fug him and his overrated son.

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3 hours ago, KSpan said:

Alex Smith had an aberrant season with 26 passing TDs the year they drafted Mahomes as well, a.k.a. clear competition. That is an example of why I think Carolina would be remiss to take all competition off the table at this point. Need to keep things rolling strong into next season.

Bro, that was his 12th year in the league…

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19 minutes ago, Navy_football said:

Hold up. Let me get this straight, cause maybe I'm trippin.

So the Panthers need 2 more WRs (one to start at the X), a backup RB that'll get 10+ touches a game, at least one starting edge rusher, a starting ILB, a starting FS, and a new DC because they were the worst defense in the history of the NFL. But they should use high draft capital or salary cap for a backup QB that hopefully will never see the field. All because Bryce Young needs competition to push him to improve.

Boy if you don't stop...

 

Where did I say any of that? I didn't.

However, let's pretend for a second that I did. If the competition is indeed a catalyst of Bryce's performance, and it sure appears to be, would it not be sage to keep that solidly in place rather than risk decline in performance? Is that not worthy of prioritizing in some way, shape, or form? And is that not the responsibility of the FO to address such priorities?

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1 minute ago, KSpan said:

Where did I say any of that? I didn't.

However, let's pretend for a second that I did. If the competition is indeed a catalyst of Bryce's performance, and it sure appears to be, would it not be sage to keep that solidly in place rather than risk decline in performance? Is that not worthy of prioritizing in some way, shape, or form? And is that not the responsibility of the FO to address such priorities?

Boy, if you don't stop...

No. That's something you made up in your head. Nobody thinks that's an actual thing but you. This team needs a #1 WR, and an entire defense. Not a backup QB to puch Bryce Young. 

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20 minutes ago, BIGH2001 said:

Bro, that was his 12th year in the league…

Point being what exactly? The corollary here of course is that if he had been challenged sooner instead of anointed and not challenged, he would have performed better throughout his career. Which is almost what I'm suggesting the team continue to consider with Bryce...

Craziness, I know. I mean, who would think that a guy that clearly benefitted from competition might still benefit from some degree of it in the formative years of his career?

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Just now, Navy_football said:

No. That's something you made up in your head. Nobody thinks that's an actual thing but you. This team needs a #1 WR, and an entire defense. Not a backup QB to puch Bryce Young. 

No, you made up the BS strawman that you posted first and I responded to for giggles. All I said was that the team should consider keeping competition if they feel it would benefit him.

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4 minutes ago, KSpan said:

Where did I say any of that? I didn't.

However, let's pretend for a second that I did. If the competition is indeed a catalyst of Bryce's performance, and it sure appears to be, would it not be sage to keep that solidly in place rather than risk decline in performance? Is that not worthy of prioritizing in some way, shape, or form? And is that not the responsibility of the FO to address such priorities?

Boy, if you don't stop...

It’s year 3. Bryce proved everything he needed this year. There is zero point in using draft capital or overpaying unnecessary FA funds on a starter level backup QB. Bryce doesn’t need competition anymore in year 3 after proving himself. We will have our cheap vet backup.

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3 minutes ago, KSpan said:

No, you made up the BS strawman that you posted first and I responded to for giggles. All I said was that the team should consider keeping competition if they feel it would benefit him.

Which part was a strawman argument - in your opinion? To bring in a backup that would compete with BY would take significant draft capital or salary cap that can be better appropriated to improve positions of weakness. If you're thinking a 5th round draft pick, then I'm all for it. But they wouldn't really be pushing BY for the start. 

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38 minutes ago, Navy_football said:

Hold up. Let me get this straight, cause maybe I'm trippin.

So the Panthers need 2 more WRs (one to start at the X), a backup RB that'll get 10+ touches a game, at least one starting edge rusher, a starting ILB, a starting FS, and a new DC because they were the worst defense in the history of the NFL. But they should use high draft capital or salary cap for a backup QB that hopefully will never see the field. All because Bryce Young needs competition to push him to improve.

Boy if you don't stop...

 

I wouldn't waste high draft capital on it. I'm as much of a Bryce skeptic as anyone but really you need one of the Free Agency guys for competition or insurance. Adding a rookie does nothing. 

If Bryce gets hurt or doesn't work out, you need somebody with some NFL experience. Besides, what "competition" will they be as rookie QB?

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1 minute ago, ProcessBlue2 said:

I wouldn't waste high draft capital on it. I'm as much of a Bryce skeptic as anyone but really you need one of the Free Agency guys for competition or insurance. Adding a rookie does nothing. 

If Bryce gets hurt or doesn't work out, you need somebody with some NFL experience. Besides, what "competition" will they be as rookie QB?

Not sure if I completely agree. Use FA to focus on a proven WR or Edge. If Bryce sucks like the first 2 games this year, then you let him drive us to the #1 pick and his replacement. But you'll never know what we have in him if this receiving corps isn't improved. We need a guy. At least one. 

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1 minute ago, Navy_football said:

Not sure if I completely agree. Use FA to focus on a proven WR or Edge. If Bryce sucks like the first 2 games this year, then you let him drive us to the #1 pick and his replacement. But you'll never know what we have in him if this receiving corps isn't improved. We need a guy. At least one. 

Oh definitely, but it won't cost 5m if that for your average journeyman QB. I mean Dalton makes less than that if I recall.

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