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Jackie Lee

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8 minutes ago, Jaxel said:

Well, regarding McDermott, what other team in the AFC is breaking through right now? 

TBH, I’m not sure any team is going to breakthrough in the AFC as long as Mahomes and Reid are in KC. With Reid’s run in Philly followed by his run in KC, I’d give him the mantle as GOAT coach over Belichick. 

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11 minutes ago, R0CKnR0LLA said:

I really don't think I can keep following the NFL with this WWE level officiating. Good luck to the rest of you.

You don't bet on the outcome, you bet on the storyline and it's easy to follow. Kelce wins MVP of the SB and proposes during the awards ceremony. Goodell cements millions of Swifties to the NFL and their billions of dollars they're willing to drop. 

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1 hour ago, tukafan21 said:

I already said that I personally thought he did get to the line, but only BARELY.

But that's what that is, my opinion, there wasn't a single piece of clear video evidence that he got there, so you have to stick with the call on the field.

In the end, if he got there, it was by literally only a couple of inches and neither ref was ever going to actually be able tell exactly where the ball was, if this isn't the Chiefs in this type of game, nobody takes issue with the call and subsequent replay, it's what happens in plays THAT close.

There’s no doubt in my mind that he made it and there’s also no doubt in my mind that it should have been a half yard or almost the entire yard closer on Kinkaid’s catch the play before. Bills still had their chance and blew it (especially taking the XP off the board so early). That’s there MO to mess things up and go away from easy plays and the running game.

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I thought he had the first but as soon as they marked it short I knew there was no chance it was reversing. I also don't know how they ruled that jump ball a catch for Worthy? He had 1 hand and the ball hit the ground...take the defender out of it and if it's just him alone there's no way that's ruled a catch.

 

The Bills also looked like the frustrating Panthers of old when our play calling was so predictable I could have played D coordinator. Cook was absolutely GAMING tonight and they take him off the field in short yardage/clutch situations. Every time he was on the field he got it done. Say what you will about the refs...I've said plenty, but the Bills lost this game.

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48 minutes ago, Candler Cat said:

From the live TV angle it looked like he got it

He did. A frame before or after showed his face and the top of the ball. The spot on 3rd down was also way closer to the first down than the spot was as well. The ball was in his left hand and his helmet was at the line. Using both angles, you could determine it without much difficulty. Refs played their part. No way to know if Buffalo scores or not and what KC does after so it is what it is and Buffalo had their last chance by abandoned all runs and dropped that 4th down throw.

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I think the Bills gave up knowing that it wasn’t going to matter what they did, at a certain point there was going to be a lever pulled by the NFL to advance the Chiefs to the Super Bowl. The Bills had their chances, but it seems like something was off. And am I imagining this, but did they show a Chiefs Super Bowl ad for chips or something before the game was even over??

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McDermott is a great coach and had the Bills right there to win this game.  A few plays or calls go their way and they are in the Suoer Bowl.  He isn’t going anywhere.

And the Taylor Swift factor didn’t help

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4 minutes ago, Moonraker said:

I thought he had the first but as soon as they marked it short I knew there was no chance it was reversing. I also don't know how they ruled that jump ball a catch for Worthy? He had 1 hand and the ball hit the ground...take the defender out of it and if it's just him alone there's no way that's ruled a catch.

 

The Bills also looked like the frustrating Panthers of old when our play calling was so predictable I could have played D coordinator. Cook was absolutely GAMING tonight and they take him off the field in short yardage/clutch situations. Every time he was on the field he got it done. Say what you will about the refs...I've said plenty, but the Bills lost this game.

Me too. I saw the top ref and thought they got it but then he backs off as soon as the bottom ref ran up.

I forgot about the Worthy play. If Worthy was given the catch then the ground touch made it incomplete. Made no sense. Either you rule an interception and Buffalo QB touched and down before the ball is pulled out or call it an incompletion because the ball touched the ground before Worthy got possession. That was likely an additional 4 points that KC got instead of having to kick a FG.

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5 minutes ago, WhoKnows said:

Me too. I saw the top ref and thought they got it but then he backs off as soon as the bottom ref ran up.

I forgot about the Worthy play. If Worthy was given the catch then the ground touch made it incomplete. Made no sense. Either you rule an interception and Buffalo QB touched and down before the ball is pulled out or call it an incompletion because the ball touched the ground before Worthy got possession. That was likely an additional 4 points that KC got instead of having to kick a FG.

There was D holding called on that play anyways so they were getting a 1st no matter what. But who knows with all the extra yards. I'm no Eagles fan, but I hope Philly runs all over them. The Eagles have just had problems showing up at times this year...let's hope they bring their A game to New Orleans

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I HATED the call to take away the extra point and go for 2 at the end of the half. I don't believe you should ever take points off the board. I also thought it was too early to go for 2 when they took the lead in the 3rd quarter. They should have been up 24-21 instead of 22-21. I sent out a text at 9:28pm and told several friends those missed PATs would cost them the game and they'd lose by 3. Guess what? Buffalo lost by 3. This game should have at least gone to OT which would have given the Bills a chance to win.

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1 hour ago, R0CKnR0LLA said:

I really don't think I can keep following the NFL with this WWE level officiating. Good luck to the rest of you.

Dude, there were questionable calls both ways. At the end of the day, Josh missed it by a hair. All of you conspiracy theorists are just going to have to deal with the fact that the Chiefs simply own the Bills, and it's going to take something spectacular for them to break out of jail. But their in the jail cell with everyone else in the AFC.

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43 minutes ago, WhoKnows said:

Me too. I saw the top ref and thought they got it but then he backs off as soon as the bottom ref ran up.

I forgot about the Worthy play. If Worthy was given the catch then the ground touch made it incomplete. Made no sense. Either you rule an interception and Buffalo QB touched and down before the ball is pulled out or call it an incompletion because the ball touched the ground before Worthy got possession. That was likely an additional 4 points that KC got instead of having to kick a FG.

There was a defensive penalty on that play anyways and the Chiefs were moving the ball at will. 

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