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[Joe Person] Jonathon Brooks had a successful 2nd ACL surgery - Expected to miss all of 2025 Season

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Just now, Mr. Scot said:

It's who they prioritize, though.

Joe Schoen has a pretty good rep when it comes to talent scouting. As a team manager though, not so much.

 

It's not like barkley was some 100 million or 20 per guy. He was cheap. They could have easily fit him into the formula. 

You prioritize elite talent and IF Schoen didn't see barkley as that.....Well you got a problem. Some teams just don't pay ____ like the rams don't pay MLBs, many teams don't pay safety, etc. Lots of teams don't pay RB, titans didn't pay Derrick Henry, pollard was a tag the year before, swift when for cheap. It was and been a buyers market for RBs.....

 

Of course Panthers have a long history of paying RBs and MLBs/LBs, while others didn't... 

 

I don't believe in paying RBs, but if that's all what I feel is elite Barkley is asking, 100% pay it. Now this would be different if Barkley got injured again.......

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2 minutes ago, Basbear said:

 

It's not like barkley was some 100 million or 20 per guy. He was cheap. They could have easily fit him into the formula. 

You prioritize elite talent and IF Schoen didn't see barkley as that.....Well you got a problem. Some teams just don't pay ____ like the rams don't pay MLBs, many teams don't pay safety, etc. Lots of teams don't pay RB, titans didn't pay Derrick Henry, pollard was a tag the year before, swift when for cheap. It was and been a buyers market for RBs.....

Of course Panthers have a long history of paying RBs and MLBs/LBs, while others didn't... 

I don't believe in paying RBs, but if that's all what I feel is elite Barkley is asking, 100% pay it. Now this would be different if Barkley got injured again.......

I understand prioritizing a quarterback.

I don't understand that quarterback being Daniel Jones 😕

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7 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I understand prioritizing a quarterback.

I don't understand that quarterback being Daniel Jones 😕

 

They called a all-in river bet and busted. That was schoen too..... 

It's sorta like jags, they were scared about replacing Trevor........... Jones played well that year and they already turned down the 5th year op. Panic set in and they gave him that insane contract. It's still not as bad as Wilson or Watson. 

I get the fear, but you what the giants should have done was tag him or go back in time for the 5th year option. I think it was only around 19 million, he wasn't worth that either.....

You need great QB coaches and minds to not allow that.....

Fear makes us all do wrong...

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11 minutes ago, Basbear said:

 

They called a all-in river bet and busted. That was schoen too..... 

It's sorta like jags, they were scared about replacing Trevor........... Jones played well that year and they already turned down the 5th year op. Panic set in and they gave him that insane contract. It's still not as bad as Wilson or Watson. 

I get the fear, but you what the giants should have done was tag him or go back in time for the 5th year option. I think it was only around 19 million, he wasn't worth that either.....

You need great QB coaches and minds to not allow that.....

Fear makes us all do wrong...

Schoen and Morgan were colleagues in Buffalo. If the Giants give him the heave ho, I could see Morgan giving him a pure scouting job.

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5 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Schoen and Morgan were colleagues in Buffalo. If the Giants give him the heave ho, I could see Morgan giving him a pure scouting job.

 

I had a higher opinion of him two years ago...

In fact I had him as a top three before fissererererer got the keys. league sure does change fast for some...

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27 minutes ago, Basbear said:

I had a higher opinion of him two years ago...

In fact I had him as a top three before fissererererer got the keys. league sure does change fast for some...

Video from last year of Schoen discussing draft options with his kids...

 

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It's annoying that this discussion keeps going back to arguing over the investment. It's not just the investment you can draft RB's in the first two rounds but you don't trade up to draft a back with a torn ACL who also isn't a game changer and would be a mid round pick at best in the the upcoming draft.

Dan Morgan should be getting a hell of a lot more grief for that trade and selection instead some people want to shine his shoes because he's a former Panther.

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18 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

you dont have to be a doctor to know trading up in the 2nd to draft a hurt running back is monumentally stupid

Not debating the gamble. I just think it’s funny everyone here thinks they know what right looks like in terms of rehabilitation and return to sport.

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16 hours ago, ECHornet said:

We certainly botched the handling of Brooks’s rehab and/or his return to play decision.

I’m still not giving up on Brooks becoming an important contributor to our team. Unfortunately, I don’t think that happens until 2026. 

How did we botch it? He was handled with kid gloves.

That said, we should cut him now. He'll be a non-contributor for 2 years. No use for him on the roster. 

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