BREAKING NEWS: Panthers hiring new coach

[TheSpecialJuan]

According to Mike Kaye of The Charlotte Observer, the team is expected to hire former cornerback Kevin Peterson as a defensive assistant.

 

Peterson spent this past year as the cornerbacks coach for Colorado State University Pueblo.

Before hitting the sidelines for the ThunderWolves in 2024, Peterson spent the prior season with both the Los Angeles Rams and Arizona Cardinals as a Bill Walsh Diversity Coaching Fellow.

[TheSpecialJuan]

[Greatman77]

We can only get better....

[hepcat]

Colorado State - Pueblo? The shittiest city in Colorado? 

[OceanRider]

10 hours ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

….as a Bill Walsh Diversity Coaching Fellow.

What the heck is that?

[Khyber53]

Good! Hope he does great here!

And if the Bill Walsh Diversity Coaching Fellow was his route to becoming a successful coach then great! The league won't survive long if we go back to the old days when there was a bottleneck to access that prevented skilled people from different backgrounds from getting the opportunity to coach.

And fug Trump.

[Icege]

Great opportunity for him! Getting to work under and learn from Capers, Evero, and Cooley is awesome for a player trying to break into coaching.

[lightsout]

8 hours ago, OceanRider said:

What the heck is that?

 

The best part about these sort of things is that in explaining them, they sound truly awful lol.

[OceanRider]

On 2/6/2025 at 7:29 AM, Khyber53 said:

Good! Hope he does great here!

And if the Bill Walsh Diversity Coaching Fellow was his route to becoming a successful coach then great! The league won't survive long if we go back to the old days when there was a bottleneck to access that prevented skilled people from different backgrounds from getting the opportunity to coach.

And fug Trump.

Aside from your personal opinions on Trump, what bottlenecks exist that prevent qualified people from having success? If the candidate is talented and successful in what he has done already, there’s no reason to think he wouldn’t be considered for the job. What does the color of someone’s skin have to do with anything?
 

From what I can tell, diversity hires only block qualified talent and lowers standards. 
 

 

[rayzor]

1 hour ago, OceanRider said:

Aside from your personal opinions on Trump, what bottlenecks exist that prevent qualified people from having success? If the candidate is talented and successful in what he has done already, there’s no reason to think he wouldn’t be considered for the job. What does the color of someone’s skin have to do with anything?
 

From what I can tell, diversity hires only block qualified talent and lowers standards. 

or they put optics on someone that otherwise would have been overlooked despite being talented enough for the job. not everyone who has talent is given a fair opportunity. it doesn't hurt to open up the talent pool beyond what people with limited vision would otherwise have made available to them.

it doesn't block talent. it widens the pool of talent and does nothing to affect the standards.

[Khyber53]

20 hours ago, OceanRider said:

Aside from your personal opinions on Trump, what bottlenecks exist that prevent qualified people from having success? If the candidate is talented and successful in what he has done already, there’s no reason to think he wouldn’t be considered for the job. What does the color of someone’s skin have to do with anything?
 

From what I can tell, diversity hires only block qualified talent and lowers standards. 
 

 

Actually, before the Rooney rule came into effect, followed by a number of efforts to increase diversity, the NFL coaching ranks suffered from a massive disparity between the people coaching teams and the teams they coached. If you weren't a white man, you weren't getting any coaching jobs up until the last two decades with some very, very rare exceptions.

The first minority head coach was Fritz Pollard in 1921 of the Arkon Pros. Almost 70 years later, the first black head coach would be Art Shell of the Oakland Raiders in 1989. Then it was Dennis Green in Minnesota beginning in 1992. Shell and Green would have good to decent careers as head coaches as would Philadelphia's Ray Rhodes (who would also coach the Green Bay Packers). Rhodes would even win Coach of the Year in 1995. Tony Dungy would begin coaching the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in 1996. 

Each of those men fought through a good ol' boys network that kept coaching jobs for white men and made it to the top, and they were used to it, having been almost as rare at the coordinator and lower coaching positions as well throughout their careers. How hard it was for them to make it led to the Rooney Rule, requiring NFL teams to interview at least one minority candidate for coaching jobs. The rule stands today.

It does not require hiring a minority. It just guarantees that at least one minority candidate gets to come to the table and make the best case for themself. And honestly, minority hires have risen and the quality of football has grown with it. NFL coaching is beginning to look not just like it's player base, but it's fanbase as well. Ticket sales are through the roof, the viewership has grown explosively over the last two decades and international interest is skyrocketing.

Is diversity what caused this? It's part of it. The product has gotten better and with any business, that's what it is all about: better product, better returns, better feature. 

Now, I've given my answer. How about you answer one for me?

Has the inclusion of black coaches, Hispanic coaches, mixed race coaches and female coaches harmed the game. And if so, how? 

 

[Khyber53]

22 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

Actually, before the Rooney rule came into effect, followed by a number of efforts to increase diversity, the NFL coaching ranks suffered from a massive disparity between the people coaching teams and the teams they coached. If you weren't a white man, you weren't getting any coaching jobs up until the last two decades with some very, very rare exceptions.

The first minority head coach was Fritz Pollard in 1921 of the Arkon Pros. Almost 70 years later, the first black head coach would be Art Shell of the Oakland Raiders in 1989. Then it was Dennis Green in Minnesota beginning in 1992. Shell and Green would have good to decent careers as head coaches as would Philadelphia's Ray Rhodes (who would also coach the Green Bay Packers). Rhodes would even win Coach of the Year in 1995. Tony Dungy would begin coaching the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in 1996. 

Each of those men fought through a good ol' boys network that kept coaching jobs for white men and made it to the top, and they were used to it, having been almost as rare at the coordinator and lower coaching positions as well throughout their careers. How hard it was for them to make it led to the Rooney Rule, requiring NFL teams to interview at least one minority candidate for coaching jobs. The rule stands today.

It does not require hiring a minority. It just guarantees that at least one minority candidate gets to come to the table and make the best case for themself. And honestly, minority hires have risen and the quality of football has grown with it. NFL coaching is beginning to look not just like it's player base, but it's fanbase as well. Ticket sales are through the roof, the viewership has grown explosively over the last two decades and international interest is skyrocketing.

Is diversity what caused this? It's part of it. The product has gotten better and with any business, that's what it is all about: better product, better returns, better feature. 

Now, I've given my answer. How about you answer one for me?

Has the inclusion of black coaches, Hispanic coaches, mixed race coaches and female coaches harmed the game. And if so, how? 

 

You know, I'm sorry. I don't mean to try and put a stumbling block in front of you brother.

I just very, very much believe that We the People, is best served by allowing all of us to be part of the We, and not just a select few.

[Donald LaFell]

I like his baby’s scowl lol

[OceanRider]

15 hours ago, Khyber53 said:

Actually, before the Rooney rule came into effect, followed by a number of efforts to increase diversity, the NFL coaching ranks suffered from a massive disparity between the people coaching teams and the teams they coached. If you weren't a white man, you weren't getting any coaching jobs up until the last two decades with some very, very rare exceptions.

The first minority head coach was Fritz Pollard in 1921 of the Arkon Pros. Almost 70 years later, the first black head coach would be Art Shell of the Oakland Raiders in 1989. Then it was Dennis Green in Minnesota beginning in 1992. Shell and Green would have good to decent careers as head coaches as would Philadelphia's Ray Rhodes (who would also coach the Green Bay Packers). Rhodes would even win Coach of the Year in 1995. Tony Dungy would begin coaching the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in 1996. 

Each of those men fought through a good ol' boys network that kept coaching jobs for white men and made it to the top, and they were used to it, having been almost as rare at the coordinator and lower coaching positions as well throughout their careers. How hard it was for them to make it led to the Rooney Rule, requiring NFL teams to interview at least one minority candidate for coaching jobs. The rule stands today.

It does not require hiring a minority. It just guarantees that at least one minority candidate gets to come to the table and make the best case for themself. And honestly, minority hires have risen and the quality of football has grown with it. NFL coaching is beginning to look not just like it's player base, but it's fanbase as well. Ticket sales are through the roof, the viewership has grown explosively over the last two decades and international interest is skyrocketing.

Is diversity what caused this? It's part of it. The product has gotten better and with any business, that's what it is all about: better product, better returns, better feature. 

Now, I've given my answer. How about you answer one for me?

Has the inclusion of black coaches, Hispanic coaches, mixed race coaches and female coaches harmed the game. And if so, how? 

 

No, not at all. Some of sports greatest ever are people from all backgrounds, not just “white.” Coaches included. I don’t even think I could name a NFL coach of color who I believe that they are in the position for any reason other than merit and sharing a common interest in winning with their respective management. 

 

I would argue that the act of forcing diversity hires would harm any organization. Just bad practice all around. I understand the Rooney rule only requires that there is consideration and interviews with minority candidates. I don’t have a real big problem with that.