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Joe Person: Panthers really like Mason Graham and Jalon Walker

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32 minutes ago, PantherChris said:

Its pretty much what I expect a top 5 Pro Bowl Guard to do to a rookie in his first NFL game situation

This is also the exact kind if matchup in terms of players that you SHOULD expect him to dominate. Graham is supposed to be the lighter/more athletic IDL guy that wins on that explosiveness and speed. 

If Hunt gets his hands on guys like that, it's over.

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39 minutes ago, ECHornet said:

Graham isn’t going to win in the NFL by quickness and speed, imo

His rep is much more of a speed/quickness guy than a power guy. He's an athlete/wrestler type. You aren't gonna see him chucking people like DB does for us. 

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I won't be surprised if Graham disappoints. Maybe not outright bust but never lives up to his draft status. The more I watched him at Michigan the more I came away impressed by the other Michigan DT. I think he might be the real player. Usually when you have two high level prospects in the same college unit one of them ends up getting fraud checked in the NFL as being largely carried by the other guy. Peppers and Ryan Sims at UNC comes to mind. Lavar Arrington and Courtney Brown at Penn State, etc.

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2 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

His rep is much more of a speed/quickness guy than a power guy. He's an athlete/wrestler type. You aren't gonna see him chucking people like DB does for us. 

I didn’t view him as the top 10 pick everyone else did. 
 

Watch Derrick Brown or Jalen Carter’s college highlights. Those are top 10 worthy interior DLmen. Graham isn’t that imo

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1 hour ago, ECHornet said:

I didn’t view him as the top 10 pick everyone else did. 
 

Watch Derrick Brown or Jalen Carter’s college highlights. Those are top 10 worthy interior DLmen. Graham isn’t that imo

I agree completely. Good prospect, not great prospect.

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This last draft was so overhyped. The only draft I can remember with comparable unearned hype was the covid draft and even that wasn't as bad as this year because everyone knew the covid draft was warped vs this one being normal ass being sold as gold.  

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22 minutes ago, Waldo said:

This last draft was so overhyped. The only draft I can remember with comparable unearned hype was the covid draft and even that wasn't as bad as this year because everyone knew the covid draft was warped vs this one being normal ass being sold as gold.  

I wouldn't say overhyped at all. It was incredibly deep but light on elite talent. That was literally the story the whole cycle.

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25 minutes ago, Waldo said:

This last draft was so overhyped. The only draft I can remember with comparable unearned hype was the covid draft and even that wasn't as bad as this year because everyone knew the covid draft was warped vs this one being normal ass being sold as gold.  

One preseason game is obviously enough to grade an entire draft

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1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

I wouldn't say overhyped at all. It was incredibly deep but light on elite talent. That was literally the story the whole cycle.

The guys at the top is what gets churned over and over again at draft time. They tried to make anyone going in the top of the draft stand out but the depth looked way better after their personal 'buts' were discussed. It was what, 2 guys and then basically guys you would see at the end of the 1st or 2nd in most other drafts?

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One preseason game is obviously enough to grade an entire draft

Lol. How about sitting through a draft process completely underwhelmed. When you see what you expected it's just the long road to being proven correct. 

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