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Just now, L-TownCat said:

Pretty sure that’s baked into the trade.  If it’s expected the player needs a big new contract, the trade value of said player dips a bit.

It will still be costly tho.

That would be the most I would give up for him. I still would not feel good about the trade after.

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5 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

Nah hell no, swap 1sts and 2nds and call it even since we are paying a massive contract. 

 

I think Panthers can get or just play hard ball. This is his 2nd str8 tag, not many teams have or want to give millions right now to some #2 WR. 

They need to pay Chase 40 million per. 

IDK, I'd still lean on youR favorite movie= tmac at 8th.....

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Just now, Basbear said:

 

I think Panthers can get or just play hard ball. This is his 2nd str8 tag, not many teams have or want to give millions right now to some #2 WR. 

They need to pay Chase 40 million per. 

IDK, I'd still lean on youR favorite movie= tmac at 8th.....

If it were me and I was hell bent on not going defense at 8 I would be trying to trade the pick to the highest bidder. There are wr's that are better fits for us later in the 1st.

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3 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

That would be the most I would give up for him. I still would not feel good about the trade after.

Not crazy about trades buuuuut… we are seemingly incapable of drafting/developing WR talent.  This seems to be our only way to get a known commodity at the position.  

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Not crazy about trades buuuuut… we are seemingly incapable of drafting/developing WR talent.  This seems to be our only way to get a known commodity at the position.  

They need to avoid the 2nd round curse. Just take one in the 3rd or later until you hit on one.

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