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Tet McMillan: "I don't want to hear nothing"

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jfra78 Grand Master

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6 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

You're literally lying in THIS post, because that's NOT what you said.

You said he did that vs Hunter... which doesn't take a rocket scientist to know what you're really saying is "hunter held him to those stats"

Which again, is just flat out incorrect as Hunter barely played in that game.  As I've said, he had a bad game, I'm not dismissing that, I'm just pointing out the FACTS that he didn't have those stats "vs Hunter" like YOU said... this isn't that hard to see.

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I mean there's video of this going around

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I mean there's video of this going around

Video of what?  Hunter standing on the sideline for the entire 2nd half?

Again, I'm not trying to excuse a bad game by T-Mac, it happens to all players.  I'm solely responding to your post that he did it vs Hunter, he did not as Hunter came into the game hurt, played sparingly in the first half, and then was sat for the entire 2nd half to not risk further injury.

And again, even if I wasn't here to point out this absolutely impossible to contradict FACT, and all you had to go off of was the box scores, how does his 2023 and 2024 box scores in those games not in essence cancel each other out anyways?

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1 minute ago, tukafan21 said:

Video of what?  Hunter standing on the sideline for the entire 2nd half?

Again, I'm not trying to excuse a bad game by T-Mac, it happens to all players.  I'm solely responding to your post that he did it vs Hunter, he did not as Hunter came into the game hurt, played sparingly in the first half, and then was sat for the entire 2nd half to not risk further injury.

And again, even if I wasn't here to point out this absolutely impossible to contradict FACT, and all you had to go off of was the box scores, how does his 2023 and 2024 box scores in those games not in essence cancel each other out anyways?

Cause 2024 is more important

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33 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

100%

I'm not pounding the table for T-Mac but I also definitely would not oppose drafting him.

That’s where I’m at as well, I have a few other players I’d rather have, but I would also be excited with T-Mac.

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Cause 2024 is more important

Why?

Why is T-Mac's stat line against Colorado in 2024 when Hunter barely played more important?

It's not like T-Mac took a step back in 2024, he was still 3rd in the nation in yards, despite having a new coaching staff that was terrible, a massive drop-off in his QB play, and not having other weapons on the offense to take attention away from him.

If 2024 is more important, I'd say still finishing up 3rd in the nation in yards despite those things is FAR more impressive on the whole than one bad game against Colorado.

AND.... before you go and try and say, "well he racked up 304 yards against a bad UNM team" (as I know people love to try and use that against him)... Take 200 yards off his total that game, so he only had 104 in that game and he still finishes 7th in the nation in yards, despite playing 1 less game than most of those guys as Arizona didn't play in a bowl game this year.

 

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At the beginning of draft research, I saw plenty of comments that Tmac was slow etc and not a yac guy. I watch him run away from DBs and get plenty of yac.

I feel the key these anti-Tmac people are missing is QB play. That zona QB is awful and the reason for most of the 50/50 balls, Tmac would be open and wait for the broken duck pass to reach allowing the CB/DB to close. He still won.

Im no warren fan, but just like him, Tmac was 100% of the show, the focus was stopping him.....it didn't work.

 

Draft him Brandt/Dan!!

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4 minutes ago, Basbear said:

At the beginning of draft research, I saw plenty of comments that Tmac was slow etc and not a yac guy. I watch him run away from DBs and get plenty of yac.

I feel the key these anti-Tmac people are missing is QB play. That zona QB is awful and the reason for most of the 50/50 balls, Tmac would be open and wait for the broken duck pass to reach allowing the CB/DB to close. Hed still won.

Im no warren fan, but just like him, Tmac was 100% of the show, the focus was stopping him.....it didn't work.

 

Draft him Brandt/Dan!!

Yup, all of this.

I love the people who talk about him only being a contested catch guy and just dismiss when I bring up that he was 5th in the Big 12 in YAC, all it does is show they have done nothing more than watch all the highlight clips of his absurd contested catches, but not watch the 20+ minute videos out there of every catch he's made and all the YAC he picks up.

And the poor QB play thing is way too overlooked by people, he probably would have had another 200-300 yards and 3-5 more TDs this year with just marginally better QB play.  The number of times he was open and would have had a TD with a good pass, but instead, the QB just flat out missed him badly, was far too many to count.

 

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7 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

Why?

Why is T-Mac's stat line against Colorado in 2024 when Hunter barely played more important?

It's not like T-Mac took a step back in 2024, he was still 3rd in the nation in yards, despite having a new coaching staff that was terrible, a massive drop-off in his QB play, and not having other weapons on the offense to take attention away from him.

If 2024 is more important, I'd say still finishing up 3rd in the nation in yards despite those things is FAR more impressive on the whole than one bad game against Colorado.

AND.... before you go and try and say, "well he racked up 304 yards against a bad UNM team" (as I know people love to try and use that against him)... Take 200 yards off his total that game, so he only had 104 in that game and he still finishes 7th in the nation in yards, despite playing 1 less game than most of those guys as Arizona didn't play in a bowl game this year.

 

5 receptions for 34 yards is against Hunter it's in the video.  2024 is more important because it's the most recent and both players should have gotten better.  Obviously Hunter learned from the first game.  The whole point is Hunter is an NFL level talent at CB and the only real marchip we have to show how tmac could play in the NFL.  For as big as Tmac is how does Hunter just bully him in that game.  I never said Tmac isn't a first round talent, but his stock is only up because the cream is so thin at WR.  

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