Derek Landri the real deal?

[thunderraiden]

Only two defensive tackles have made more defensive stops than the 10 that Derek Landri has made.

[Ricky Spanish]

I like our white boy

[Mr. Scot]

Reminds me of Shane Burton.

Mind you, I'd still prefer him as a rotational guy overall.

[CatMan72]

Well, stats can be a little misleading in that Landri has spent allot more time on the field than most of the other defensive tackles in the league in between our absurd number of 3 and outs on offense - but he has played well and the other white meat (Nick Hayden) had a pretty good game against Da Bears.

[LinvilleGorge]

He's decent. I would'nt mind him as a #2 DT, but if he's the best DT on your team, you've got problems, which we obviously do.

Stats don't even come close to judging the overall impact of a DT.

[Vagrant]

I think the bigger problems have been the play of our defensive ends not named Charles Johnson. Our tackles have been solid if unspectacular, but our ends can't keep contain on running plays or get pressure on the quarterback on passing downs. There really isn't a big need to run up the middle if you can get yards just as easily on the outside.

People always praise the tackle stat for linebackers, but it's really a flawed measure. If your second level of coverage is getting the majority of your tackles, then you're probably getting gashed in the short passing game and rushing game.

In regards to Landri, yes he does look like the real deal as far as I am concerned. He does a decent job of holding the line together and has made a number of big stops for losses.

[LinvilleGorge]

Look around the league man. A LB almost ALWAYS leads a team in tackles. That's not a reason for concern. Concern comes when a DB is leading your team in tackles.

I agree about our DEs, but I think some of their lack of production comes from the lack of a DT that commands a double team. When we traded Jenkins (not that I think that was a bad move), we lost that DT. There is no one on our DL that keeps an opposing OC up at night. That's the big difference with this year's DL. With Peppers, we had that guy that kept OC's up at night in a cold sweat. With Peppers and Jenkins, we had two.

[Zaximus]

We need to be starting Hardy. He's scary for opposing OC's and I think he's our future. Why NOT get him experience in a throw away year?

[OneBadassCat]

We need to be starting Hardy. He's scary for opposing OC's and I think he's our future. Why NOT get him experience in a throw away year?

I think he's been seeing more snaps he's just dominating like we all want him to. He'll be great eventually though. E. Brown is scaring me though I'm afraid he might be a bust. I'll give him another year though.

[PantherFanForLife]

Damn, I didn't know Hitler and Stalin were defense ends;)

[LinvilleGorge]

At this point, I'd be willing to give Hardy snaps over Brown. Brown hasn't shown poo. He's looking like a bust. Hardy could be a steal. Let him get experience. I mean, what's the worst that could happen? We lose? LOL

[CatMan72]

We need to be starting Hardy. He's scary for opposing OC's and I think he's our future. Why NOT get him experience in a throw away year?

I agree with giving Hardy the start, but I don't think he's scaring anyone yet. He's a promising young prospect, but he hasn't reached the scary level.

[panthers55]

For comparison purposes we are not leading the league in number of defensive plays surrrendered but we are third at 344. Washington leads the list at 362. By comparison the 20th ranked team is at 295. So the general average seems around 300 or 60 plays a game. The lowest ones like Tampa have already had their bye. So in comparison we are right at 69 plays a game.

In rushing attempts we are second at 35 attempts a game, the average is around 27.

So does Landri benefit from more plays? To some extent sure, his 20 tackles is 4th in the list for tackles. But interestingly the next highest Panther D linemen is Johnson tied for 29th on the list at 15 tackles. I don't remember when the last tine a DT lead our line in tackles.

[Soul Rebel]

Since our interior DL is kinda suspect and we should probably spend our 1st round pick on a DT, why not go with the Giants' way of 3 DE's and one DT. Play Johnson, Brayton, Brown/Hardy and Landri? Speed, pash rush and Brayton is big enough to stop the run on the inside. Plus Beason can slide down in the box and come off the edge to add more pass rush ability on passing downs.