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2025 NFL Draft - Round 1 Discussion


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1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

Breer on Sanders...

 

I read more than one prognosticator that said Ward would be a 2nd rounder in last year's draft. I think people are underestimating how weak this QB draft is. It's not 2022 bad, but it ain't far off. 

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1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

The multiple screens situation is THAT hard for you to grasp? How poor are you? LOL 

LOL. I knew that would offend you.

College homers are hilarious. I'll leave you alone but you do leave yourself open cheerleading so hard for college players. 

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Just now, Panthercougar68 said:

I saw boards early on last year with him as the #1 rated player!

The Deion hype machine is real. The guy really is an A+ sports marketer. I mean, I don't have any problem with Hunter winning the Heisman but when is the last time that a guy from a borderline top 25 team was a finalist much less a winner? The Shedeur hype was all downstream of Deion and Hunter.

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1 minute ago, MrBubba said:

Injury issues

 

1 minute ago, Panthering said:

Medicals must be real bad, which sucks for him

I did read some takes saying he wasn't a universal CB #1 and was somewhat scheme specific. Perhaps that is making an impact too.

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1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

LOL. I knew that would offend you.

College homers are hilarious. I'll leave you alone but you do leave yourself open cheerleading so hard for college players. 

You're the only one having an issue. Maybe check the mirror. Just fug off and watch the draft. No one else is being a douchebag

 

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