Well, the Niners just doomed themselves to mediocrity

[fanpanther]

1 hour ago, tukafan21 said:

Um, no, just no.

Bills, Chiefs, Chargers, Ravens, Bengals, Texans, Eagles, Commanders are 8 teams that it's not even a debate, they aren't trading their QB for Purdy.

Patriots, Broncos, Titans, Giants, Bears, Vikings, Falcons are 7 more teams with QBs drafted in the last 2 years that also would rather stick with them than trade for Purdy as they all have more upside than he does.

Lions, Packers, Cowboys, Bucs are 4 more that would likely keep their QB's as well, age aside for Goff, Dak, and Baker.

Panthers and Colts are two teams in the same situation, QB's who have both struggled and shown flashes to where the teams probably stick with them because they drafted them, but in a re-draft of all QB's, they probably take Purdy over the guy they currently have.

Jags, Cardinals, Dolphins, are 3 more with QB's who probably have a higher upside than Purdy but come with their own question marks, so debatable if they'd take Purdy over who they already have.

That leaves Jets, Raiders, Steelers, Browns, Saints, Seahawks, and Rams.

Rams would take him over Stafford for the future of course, but not for 2025, and I'd think the Seahawks would take him over Darnold, but honestly not sure if they would take him over Milroe at this moment as they really like his potential and have him for 4 years really cheap.

That leaves 5 teams that I see who would absolutely take him over their current situation right now, and a handful of others who MIGHT take him over their current guy, a far cry from your 20.

 

Panthers would get the chance but straight up with the contract and all the morgan should send bryce packing for purdy in a fictional world.  The contract isnt even that large its 7th in the nfl average and by next year will be 15th at least with new qbs getting deals.  Nfl qbs get paid when they play well maybe b young will get a chance to get paid one day but he has a long long ways to go to ever reach purdys bad year

[LinvilleGorge]

7 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

We haven't had back to back winning seasons as a franchise in 3 decades. Im not going to criticize another team that's making the playoffs on a regular basis. There isn't anyone on this board who wouldn't be thrilled if we had done what the 9ers have done the past few years. I'd take the mediocrity the 49ers have experienced over the slog through the sewer that has been the Panthers since Tepper bought the team. 

Which is completely irrelevant to the current conversation. They've doomed themselves to what we've historically been by making a really dumb call. For such an offensive guru, Shanahan sure has made some dumb calls at QB.  First the Lance debacle and now the Purdy contract. I don't give them much credit for "finding" Purdy with the last pick in the draft, same as I don't really credit the Pats for "finding" Brady in the 6th. Everyone in the league passed those guys up over and over again. It was just horse poo luck.

[kungfoodude]

22 minutes ago, X-Clown said:

We watched Jimmy Garoppolo get to the Super Bowl with most of the same great team, how much did his career change when he was asked to carry a team like in Vegas?

One could argue the same for Goff(far better than Jimmy G, mind you). 

I think fans often get enamored with the Tier 2 and even Tier 3 QB's at times. 

Hell, portions of our fanbase are STILL fooled by Sam Darnold, despite him bombing so badly here.

[bythenbrs]

20 hours ago, Navy_football said:

If Bryce is Purdy level in 3 years.. tag, trade and start back over 

I wonder if Team Bryce realizes that this year he is playing for his next contract; that this is make or break for him.  If he doesn’t shoot the lights out this year, I don’t think the team passes on the QB’s coming out next year.

Better won’t be enough to keep the team from drafting another first round QB.  We’ve given him the tools, including T-Mac.  No more excuses.  He needs to look like the number 1 pick.

Edited 13 hours ago by bythenbrs

[rmoneyg35]

I don’t get the hate for Purdy. You don’t put up those kind of numbers in a 3 year period just because you’re on a good team or have good coaching. Despite all the injuries to his own team and injuries to himself he still had a 96 qb rating and has a qb rating of 104.9 in 3 years over 40 games. Heck he was in the mvp race in the 2023 season.

[BEASTfromdaEAST]

5 minutes ago, rmoneyg35 said:

I don’t get the hate for Purdy. You don’t put up those kind of numbers in a 3 year period just because you’re on a good team or have good coaching. Despite all the injuries to his own team and injuries to himself he still had a 96 qb rating and has a qb rating of 104.9 in 3 years over 40 games. Heck he was in the mvp race in the 2023 season.

I dont get it either. I would take Purdy over Bryce 10 out of 10

[tukafan21]

39 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

One could argue the same for Goff(far better than Jimmy G, mind you). 

I think fans often get enamored with the Tier 2 and even Tier 3 QB's at times. 

Hell, portions of our fanbase are STILL fooled by Sam Darnold, despite him bombing so badly here.

Darnold and Baker both bombed here with the same team and coaching and then both went on to look pretty darn good afterwards.

I'm not saying Darnold (or Baker) is some elite QB, but I don't put their issues here on either of them, that staff was a joke.

[kungfoodude]

46 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

Darnold and Baker both bombed here with the same team and coaching and then both went on to look pretty darn good afterwards.

I'm not saying Darnold (or Baker) is some elite QB, but I don't put their issues here on either of them, that staff was a joke.

Not saying you are wrong but Baker had a ton of success prior to us and Darnold was a massive bust. Basically the best he has ever been was last season on an insanely loaded roster with an insanely loaded coaching staff. He is a bum.

[tukafan21]

1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

Not saying you are wrong but Baker had a ton of success prior to us and Darnold was a massive bust. Basically the best he has ever been was last season on an insanely loaded roster with an insanely loaded coaching staff. He is a bum.

Eh, not convinced he's a bum, but also not saying he's a star either.

If there was any coaching staff in recent memory that was worse than ours with Rhule, it was the Jets staff during Darnold's time there.

I honestly just don't think we really know who Darnold is as a player yet because of it, this season will be very telling, he genuinely could be a bust or a solid above average starter and I wouldn't be surprised either way.

[SOJA]

the scariest part of Bryce to me is what if he's good not great? Because that's how you end up with Tua contracts 

I wouldn't be surprised if very soon we see teams moving on from average QBs or letting them test free agency. Tepper has invested a ton in analytics I could see us doing it too. 9ers are different because this is Shannahans guy. But the dolphins i bet you are loathing having paid Tua too early. 

 

 

[SOJA]

1 hour ago, rmoneyg35 said:

I don’t get the hate for Purdy. You don’t put up those kind of numbers in a 3 year period just because you’re on a good team or have good coaching. Despite all the injuries to his own team and injuries to himself he still had a 96 qb rating and has a qb rating of 104.9 in 3 years over 40 games. Heck he was in the mvp race in the 2023 season.

how much of that is Kyle Shanahan though ? Don't get me wrong Purdy is not a bad QB, but to me he is pretty average

[tukafan21]

12 minutes ago, SOJA said:

the scariest part of Bryce to me is what if he's good not great? Because that's how you end up with Tua contracts 

I wouldn't be surprised if very soon we see teams moving on from average QBs or letting them test free agency. Tepper has invested a ton in analytics I could see us doing it too. 9ers are different because this is Shannahans guy. But the dolphins i bet you are loathing having paid Tua too early. 

 

 

Hmmmmm, sounds like a familiar fear

And sure, a big part of my fear was the injury concern (that will always follow Bryce around) but the everything else I said is the same.

If he's too good to let walk in FA but not good enough to justify a top end contract, we're in the worst possible situation

 

Edited 12 hours ago by tukafan21

[LinvilleGorge]

2 hours ago, rmoneyg35 said:

I don’t get the hate for Purdy. You don’t put up those kind of numbers in a 3 year period just because you’re on a good team or have good coaching. Despite all the injuries to his own team and injuries to himself he still had a 96 qb rating and has a qb rating of 104.9 in 3 years over 40 games. Heck he was in the mvp race in the 2023 season.

People are using this "three year period" to gloss over the reality that he was very mid last year and in Purdy's case, "last year" means 40% of his starts.

I don't "hate" Purdy, I just think he's a very middle of the pack starter and you can't pay those guys $50M+ a year. GMs and coaches can because they just want to keep their jobs. But as a fanbase if you're wanting to compete for SBs, ugh... you're basically resigning yourself to mediocrity with decisions like this. 

[SmokinwithWilly]

3 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Which is completely irrelevant to the current conversation. They've doomed themselves to what we've historically been by making a really dumb call. For such an offensive guru, Shanahan sure has made some dumb calls at QB.  First the Lance debacle and now the Purdy contract. I don't give them much credit for "finding" Purdy with the last pick in the draft, same as I don't really credit the Pats for "finding" Brady in the 6th. Everyone in the league passed those guys up over and over again. It was just horse poo luck.

Not really. Year after year they find a way to win, even with bad decisions. Maybe its a good contract, maybe its a bad one. The only way to determine if the contract is good is by the results. You're saying its a horrible contract but if he leads them to 3 SBs, I'd call it a great contract. Time will ultimately determine the value.