Wild Idea.. Trade for Shemar Stewart

[jfra78]

1 hour ago, shaqattaq said:

That's what makes this so absurd, 1st round contract SHOULD be fully guaranteed! The Bengals are the bad guys here. If they didn't want to guarantee is contract, don't pick him in the 1st!!!

Honestly they should have just traded back.  The best they could do in a trade is probably a 2nd now

[LinvilleGorge]

58 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

Honestly they should have just traded back.  The best they could do in a trade is probably a 2nd now

Yeah, they've really fuged this up. I still think something happened post-draft that made them regret taking him and now they're stuck between a rock and a hard place. You either give the guy the contract his draft status dictates or you trade him for whatever you can get. Those are really the only two choices you have.

[jfra78]

25 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Yeah, they've really fuged this up. I still think something happened post-draft that made them regret taking him and now they're stuck between a rock and a hard place. You either give the guy the contract his draft status dictates or you trade him for whatever you can get. Those are really the only two choices you have.

I think its just the money, I think they would have dont this no matter who they picked in the first.  They really screwed this up.  

[La Pantera]

37 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Yeah, they've really fuged this up. I still think something happened post-draft that made them regret taking him and now they're stuck between a rock and a hard place. You either give the guy the contract his draft status dictates or you trade him for whatever you can get. Those are really the only two choices you have.

Isn’t the dispute over the guarantees? And not the actual contract amount? I believe it’s about a clause that would lessen the guaranteed amount if he was to be suspended.

[Ornias]

Just now, La Pantera said:

Isn’t the dispute over the guarantees? And not the actual contract amount? I believe it’s about a clause that would lessen the guaranteed amount if he was to be suspended.

Which screams to me that something happened after the draft. 

[LinvilleGorge]

2 minutes ago, Ornias said:

Which screams to me that something happened after the draft. 

Bingo.

[LinvilleGorge]

3 minutes ago, La Pantera said:

Isn’t the dispute over the guarantees? And not the actual contract amount? I believe it’s about a clause that would lessen the guaranteed amount if he was to be suspended.

All that really matters in NFL contracts are the guarantees. Everything else can disappear with the stroke of a pen to release you.

[La Pantera]

1 minute ago, Ornias said:

Which screams to me that something happened after the draft. 

Definitely could be. I know that other teams/players drafted around him had similar language in their contracts. But it was a shift in how the Bengals previously had structured contracts.

[CanadianCat]

22 hours ago, ChuckWag78 said:

https://www.si.com/nfl/panthers/news/carolina-panthers-trade-spot-cincinnati-bengals-shemar-stewart

Im a fuging savant. 

[PNW_PantherMan]

1 hour ago, jfra78 said:

I think its just the money, I think they would have dont this no matter who they picked in the first.  They really screwed this up.  

If you can't afford the pick then why not trade back or to the future?  The Bengals are cheap but they don't do this to all their 1st rounders.  It smells like they got wind of something post-draft and the owner doesn't want to pay.

[kungfoodude]

On 6/16/2025 at 4:00 PM, Basbear said:

Best I heard its a clause the bungals want to add. It prevents them form paying the full guaranteed amount if triggered. No one knows the details of the clause, but guesses are it relates to off-field stuff.

Stewart is in the right here. Before they signed burrow, chase, and Higgins they were the cheapest team in the league bar none. Unlike tepper or jarrah Jones or any other NFL ownership, all Mike brown owns is the beagals. Every other owner has many other money making businesses, not bungals. 

I still remember when Brenston Bunker was starting on WFNZ and he told the story about the beagals telling him to pick a used cup form a huge pile, LOLS! They been on hard knocks and I remember Marvin lewis telling the players not to take home Gatorade bottles........* but in that case, I believe some players were taking a back pack and filling it up with drinks. Still you make millions(around 200million) in net profit and Im sure coke gave the team those bottles, still...

Its a 32 team billion business, someone has to the cheapest.....Panthers were around the next cheapest team before tepper bought them and he has POURED millions upon millions into the team. He bought a bubble that Richardson never would, so the team had to gather in a old building during the rain. He spent millions on coofus machines that he just gave away like the bubble. Tepper made that AC trailer a thing. I've trashed him about his concerts and taking away end zone seats from fans. But the guy will spend money any way in efforts to better the team, dang I just remembered the deal he gave Rhule- more than Andy Reid at the time. 

I know results have not came, but Id 100% take Tepper over Mike brown as a owner.

I do think Tepper is a substantially worse owner than Mike Brown but it's a sinking versus floating turds argument.

The Bengals should be ashamed of attempting to set a fuged up precendent like this with VERY affordable rookie contracts.

The NFLPA should pitch a fit about this fugery.

[shaqattaq]

21 hours ago, UnluckyforSome said:

When they were pursuing Tony Siragusa as a free agent, they provided him with a coach plane ticket.

Damn! Goose was 6'3" and 340 pounds! Big man needs 2 coach seats!

[shaqattaq]

14 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

I do think Tepper is a substantially worse owner than Mike Brown but it's a sinking versus floating turds argument.

The Bengals should be ashamed of attempting to set a fuged up precendent like this with VERY affordable rookie contracts.

The NFLPA should pitch a fit about this fugery.

Yep, it's a very sensible trade off. 1st rounders get 100% guaranteed and teams get the right to a 5th year option. Win Win. Don't fug it up for everybody Cincinnati! 

[PNW_PantherMan]

1 hour ago, shaqattaq said:

Damn! Goose was 6'3" and 340 pounds! Big man needs 2 coach seats!

Think of the person next to him.  What if Goose had the middle seat?