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ESPN's All Quarter Century Team 2000-2025

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2 hours ago, Gapanthersfan said:

Love smitty, but can you put him ahead of Moss, Harrison, Fitz, Jefferson, Megatron, TO , Andre Johnson, Deandre Hopkins, Evans, Tyreek and several others not immediately coming to mind? 

Smitty only has 9 more career receiving TDs than Marquis Colston (yes, I know Brees). Colston never even made first team pro bowl. It’s painful to say, but he’s not even top 10 when considering his competition 

Yeah, criminally underrated but definitely not top 10 all time. 

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5 hours ago, Gapanthersfan said:

Love smitty, but can you put him ahead of Moss, Harrison, Fitz, Jefferson, Megatron, TO , Andre Johnson, Deandre Hopkins, Evans, Tyreek and several others not immediately coming to mind? 

Smitty only has 9 more career receiving TDs than Marquis Colston (yes, I know Brees). Colston never even made first team pro bowl. It’s painful to say, but he’s not even top 10 when considering his competition 

Agree except Andre Johnson.  I think he's higher on that list than Andre Johnson.  Hall of Very Good Inductee.  Everyone else, you can have it.

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I know that I'm biased because he's probably my all time favorite player, but I hate not to see Greg Olsen on this list! Gronk, Kelce, Gonzalez, and Gates are obvious choices, but Greg was a beast as a blocker & catcher. Not everyone on this list can say that. Couldn't we put 1 more on the PS, please??

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When you factor in Fox and Jake (love ya Jake but lets be real) Smitty deserves credit beyond the stats.  

I know I said CMCs inclusion was all ifs and promises

 

That not withstanding

Smith is top 4 in yards among his peers (2000-2014)

Top 5 in receptions in that same time frame

Only triple crown winner

Didnt have Young, Romo, Warner, Manning, Brady slinging him the ball

 

Dunno if he is top 3 in the last 25 years cause some guys have put up stats since his prime - but Smith is very underrated for a dude in a run first offense with a less than HOF QB

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On 6/23/2025 at 12:08 PM, Kuhndog94 said:

The term you're looking for is "malinger(ed)", and he didn't. 

I'm not sure why Panthers fans act like jaded ex girlfriends. 

The dude is clearly injury prone as his time in San Fransico also proves. It's not like he got to San Fran and stopped having problems.

I'm more of the mind that Rhule, in his infinite wisdom, sat McCaffrey when he was healthy so he'd have a built-in excuse that'd buy him another year. I feel pretty convinced of this as well.

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1 hour ago, AceMan said:

Whoever did this list is a clear Chiefs/Priest Holmes fan

Priest Holmes was a fantasy football for a couple seasons.  He must of won this guy some cash.  Because it was a tiny window vs the actual GOATS

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On 6/21/2025 at 8:45 PM, frankw said:

Injury prone Christian McCaffrey but no LaDainian Tomlinson? This is what happens when any jabroni can call themselves a sports analyst now.

It simply depends on perspective. CMC, when healthy and on the field, has a higher YPC and YPR than LT. Yes, he's been injury prone, but this is simply a "all quarter-century team." There are certainly different stats and different lists. If this were a list or about a team simply based on longevity, then of course LT wins that every time, but some lists are more subjective and nuanced depending upon what they are, and it's not necessarily a reflection upon a person's ability to analyze sports. 

 

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1 hour ago, TD alt said:

It simply depends on perspective. CMC, when healthy and on the field, has a higher YPC and YPR than LT. Yes, he's been injury prone, but this is simply a "all quarter-century team." There are certainly different stats and different lists. If this were a list or about a team simply based on longevity, then of course LT wins that every time, but some lists are more subjective and nuanced depending upon what they are, and it's not necessarily a reflection upon a person's ability to analyze sports. 

 

Agree to disagree.

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29 minutes ago, frankw said:

Agree to disagree.

All fine and good, but know what you're disagreeing with. You can't disagree with facts, and it is a fact that McCaffrey's yards-per-carry and yards-per-catch averages are higher than Tomlinson's. You can agree or disagree about the importance of that fact in light of different parameters or contexts, but the facts as of June 27, 2025 on their career averages in that regard aren't changing.

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1 hour ago, TD alt said:

All fine and good, but know what you're disagreeing with. You can't disagree with facts, and it is a fact that McCaffrey's yards-per-carry and yards-per-catch averages are higher than Tomlinson's. You can agree or disagree about the importance of that fact in light of different parameters or contexts, but the facts as of June 27, 2025 on their career averages in that regard aren't changing.

LT had 8 straight seasons of an average of 1100-1800 rushing yards and 126 touchdowns and missed one game in that timespan.

If you want to quote me and strut around in your Christian McCaffrey PJ's by all means do your thing bud.

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