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7 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

Ok the first paragraph made me laugh. You think he is washed and I understand it. I just don’t think it’s outlandish for someone to think he is in the top 50 in the league. It’s not really a compliment but just means he is an average backup. I’d put him in the Joe Flacco category personally. Old starter with tons of experience that can come in and run your offense if needed, but not someone you want playing more than 3 games or so. 

There are a very few number of legitimate NFL level QB's on this planet. I'm not saying he is not capable of being a backup still given that very limited number. All I'm saying is some people can choose to look at the reality glass half full or glass half empty. I'm relatively trying to remain near the middle. I do appreciate that he has experience with which he can pass on to Bryce. But I think his resume is being put on a level that does not line up. It's interesting you mentioned Flacco. I'd take him mentoring the Panthers starting QB in a heartbeat. At least Joe has won in the playoffs. And won a Super Bowl to boot. He might have only had success largely in that season but man what a run he led that offense on. I can respect that. I'm not saying I don't like or respect Andy. I do like him. And he's a ginger. But as a local fan who has seen losing losing losing mediocrity and a few very short lived seasons of potential greatness. Give me any ounce of greatness every time. Then we can hang our hat on mentoring at some level. That's my position and all I'm trying to convey. Thanks for the chat.

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18 minutes ago, frankw said:

There are a very few number of legitimate NFL level QB's on this planet. I'm not saying he is not capable of being a backup still given that very limited number. All I'm saying is some people can choose to look at the reality glass half full or glass half empty. I'm relatively trying to remain near the middle. I do appreciate that he has experience with which he can pass on to Bryce. But I think his resume is being put on a level that does not line up. It's interesting you mentioned Flacco. I'd take him mentoring the Panthers starting QB in a heartbeat. At least Joe has won in the playoffs. And won a Super Bowl to boot. He might have only had success largely in that season but man what a run he led that offense on. I can respect that. I'm not saying I don't like or respect Andy. I do like him. And he's a ginger. But as a local fan who has seen losing losing losing mediocrity and a few very short lived seasons of potential greatness. Give me any ounce of greatness every time. Then we can hang our hat on mentoring at some level. That's my position and all I'm trying to convey. Thanks for the chat.

No I get it. I think I was just saying top 50 isn’t really anything to hang your hat on. He is a ginger too. Good point. I’m not here to die on an Andy Dalton hill. 

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And yet. Gardner Minshew at 36.

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I only really watch Panthers ball, so not up on his game.  I remember a time where a large number of us around here wanted to bring in Minshew to see what he had. 

Sometimes there are a lot of factors to consider.  Clearly Mayfield and Darnold weren't fitting in as well here for whatever reason.  I could see Minshew just needed the right fit, based on what little I know about him.

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lol at everyone wishing we had some stud backup QB

Dalton not being a HOFer doesn't mean he's not a great mentor and partial coach to Bryce, he's been in the league forever and seen tons of things, he has so much knowledge to pass on.  Most of the good coaches in the league were middling players at best, so it's weird to think Dalton not having playoff success means he can only be teaching Bryce the wrong things.

Also, if Bryce craps the bed or gets hurt, we're probably better off with a bad backup who isn't going to win us games and end up with a top draft pick to take a new QB next year anyways.

If Bryce doesn't prove to be our QB of the future this year, the worst case scenario would be for a backup to find a way to win enough games to put us drafting like 13th next year.

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1 hour ago, tukafan21 said:

lol at everyone wishing we had some stud backup QB

Dalton not being a HOFer doesn't mean he's not a great mentor and partial coach to Bryce, he's been in the league forever and seen tons of things, he has so much knowledge to pass on.  Most of the good coaches in the league were middling players at best, so it's weird to think Dalton not having playoff success means he can only be teaching Bryce the wrong things.

Also, if Bryce craps the bed or gets hurt, we're probably better off with a bad backup who isn't going to win us games and end up with a top draft pick to take a new QB next year anyways.

If Bryce doesn't prove to be our QB of the future this year, the worst case scenario would be for a backup to find a way to win enough games to put us drafting like 13th next year.

Those who can, do.  Those who can't, teach.  I have seen plenty of coaches or mentors that look like they could never do "the thing" be the best at teaching it.

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18 hours ago, frankw said:

He's a great guy. In his prime he was a respectable starter. But now at this stage of his career he is an awful QB. This lip service is ridiculous.

You try way too hard

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