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13 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/46008739/eliot-wolf-patriots-willing-trade-top-draft-pick-help-team

 

fug. I wish we had players to unload. 

 

4 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Surprised they aren't on Hendrickson, although they may only be after younger players.

That "cap space" is also a bit misleading since the article also says they're already over the cap for next year.

So that cap space they have this year is really likely going to be rolled over into next year so they don't have to purge contracts to get under the cap.  While they also have to re-sign Gonzales to a new deal next offseason as well which will need cap space that they don't currently have.

But they are in the same boat as us in terms of Hendrickson, just doesn't make sense to give up a high pick, players, and a big contract unless you're in a SB window this season.

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1 hour ago, tukafan21 said:

 

That "cap space" is also a bit misleading since the article also says they're already over the cap for next year.

So that cap space they have this year is really likely going to be rolled over into next year so they don't have to purge contracts to get under the cap.  While they also have to re-sign Gonzales to a new deal next offseason as well which will need cap space that they don't currently have.

But they are in the same boat as us in terms of Hendrickson, just doesn't make sense to give up a high pick, players, and a big contract unless you're in a SB window this season.

I don't think they are in quite the same scenario because they are broadcasting that they are looking to move draft picks.

That's wild considering their position but if it leads to long term ruin for them, I will be quite happen to see it. 

fug the Pats and their shitbird fans.

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7 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I don't think they are in quite the same scenario because they are broadcasting that they are looking to move draft picks.

That's wild considering their position but if it leads to long term ruin for them, I will be quite happen to see it. 

fug the Pats and their shitbird fans.

Sure, but they made a general comment, not necessarily about Hendrickson, which is where I think they're in the same position as us.

If they were to try and make a deal for Parsons or McLaurin, that would make more sense for a comment like this.  McLaurin would be great for the development of Maye and Parsons would be a big help to their defense that is lacking pass rushers.

I don't think a team like them should try to trade for Parsons, that really should only be something contending teams consider.  But with their lack of pass rushers, it makes much more sense than someone like us, who even though we don't have great ones, we just used a 2nd and 3rd rounder on two very promising ones and I'd rather play that out than give up the assets/contract for Parsons.

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1 hour ago, tukafan21 said:

Sure, but they made a general comment, not necessarily about Hendrickson, which is where I think they're in the same position as us.

If they were to try and make a deal for Parsons or McLaurin, that would make more sense for a comment like this.  McLaurin would be great for the development of Maye and Parsons would be a big help to their defense that is lacking pass rushers.

I don't think a team like them should try to trade for Parsons, that really should only be something contending teams consider.  But with their lack of pass rushers, it makes much more sense than someone like us, who even though we don't have great ones, we just used a 2nd and 3rd rounder on two very promising ones and I'd rather play that out than give up the assets/contract for Parsons.

I think they are just broadcasting "open for business" to see what comes to their doorstep. It's an interesting move. 

If they had SPECIFIC players in mind, they would have just contacted those teams directly.

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17 minutes ago, Navy_football said:

Honestly, Bryce would be in the same situation if not for the improved play over the last 10 games last season. He was skating on some thin ice. 

I honestly think it's a dumb approach. I mean, I get it from a front office/coaching standpoint but from a fan's perspective just wanting an organization to get back to winning ways bringing in a veteran fringe starter type is just purgatory. Yeah, it might buy the GM and/or coach another year which is their focus but it just keeps the overall organization stuck in the mud. This isn't a Jake Delhomme situation where this guy just hasn't had an opportunity yet. There's plenty of film on Daniel Jones as a starter and very little of it is good. If I was a Colts fan I'd have the same wish for them as I do the Panthers. We need to ride or die with this young QB. Either let him develop and show us he's the one or let him suck us to a high pick.

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1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I honestly think it's a dumb approach. I mean, I get it from a front office/coaching standpoint but from a fan's perspective just wanting an organization to get back to winning ways bringing in a veteran fringe starter type is just purgatory. Yeah, it might buy the GM and/or coach another year which is their focus but it just keeps the overall organization stuck in the mud. This isn't a Jale Delhomme situation. There's plenty of film on Daniel Jones as a starter and very little of it is good. If I was a Colts fan I'd have the same wish for them as I do the Panthers. We need to ride or die with this young QB. Either let him develop and show us he's the one or let him suck us to a high pick.

Yep. It’s why I was hoping we’d let Matt Corral drive the boat back in 2022. Let the young QB float or sink. If they float, you may have the answer. If they sink, you’ve got a top 3 pick so you can get your QB without having to give up the farm. The fact that Fitterer was looking at Young for 2 years means we knew we were going rookie QB in 2023 but we still did it so wrong.

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