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Panthers possibly trading Thielen?


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3 minutes ago, CRA said:

It’s like everyone forgets, Canales got Tepper to green light ending the Bryce Young experiment just 2 games into the season.  THAT happened.  And I still say all the investments on O have been one that doesn’t factor in Young.

Bryce’s rise from the literal grave….wasn’t planned or the vision IMO.  Bryce IMO fugged up the plan.   Now we are in no man’s land 

If this is the case, which I don't completely rule out, I wonder how Canales plans on navigating this mess of convincing Tepper we have to move on from Bryce while not getting himself canned in the process? Quite the tightrope to walk...

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1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

If this is the case, which I don't completely rule out, I wonder how Canales plans on navigating this mess of convincing Tepper we have to move on from Bryce while not getting himself canned in the process? Quite the tightrope to walk...

It should be an easy decision at the end of this year. You don't move on from a franchise QB just because they aren't a top 5 guy. The last team I can think of that did it was the Browns and see how that turned out. If Bryce sucks this year it's an easy move on. 

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6 minutes ago, CRA said:

It’s like everyone forgets, Canales got Tepper to green light ending the Bryce Young experiment just 2 games into the season.  THAT happened.  And I still say all the investments on O have been one that doesn’t factor in Young.

Bryce’s rise from the literal grave….wasn’t planned or the vision IMO.  Bryce IMO fugged up the plan.   Now we are in no man’s land 

I was just gonna say, Canales earned my respect with that move coming in as the new guy and being able to objectively say, “sit him.  He’s not good,” regarding your owner’s pet project and former #1 overall pick in his second year.

I was explaining to my friend who is a Bears fan that while the pieces we’ve added could help Bryce, we essentially are putting the ball in his court - if you can’t win with this, the next guy will.  QB will now be a plug and play position for us if the Bryce experiment fails because every position around QB is ready to win.

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Just now, jb2288 said:

It should be an easy decision at the end of this year. You don't move on from a franchise QB just because they aren't a top 5 guy. The last team I can think of that did it was the Browns and see how that turned out. If Bryce sucks this year it's an easy move on. 

The worst possible scenario is gray area. I just want him to sink or swim. Don't go out there and be middling. Give us the answer one way or the other.

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1 minute ago, Proudiddy said:

I was explaining to my friend who is a Bears fan that while the pieces we’ve added could help Bryce, we essentially are putting the ball in his court - if you can’t win with this, the next guy will.  QB will now be a plug and play position for us if the Bryce experiment fails because every position around QB is ready to win.

Which is exactly what we should be doing. 

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1 minute ago, Proudiddy said:

I was just gonna say, Canales earned my respect with that move coming in as the new guy and being able to objectively say, “sit him.  He’s not good,” regarding your owner’s pet project and former #1 overall pick in his second year.

I was explaining to my friend who is a Bears fan that while the pieces we’ve added could help Bryce, we essentially are putting the ball in his court - if you can’t win with this, the next guy will.  QB will now be a plug and play position for us if the Bryce experiment fails because every position around QB is ready to win.

If Bryce fails this year our offense is in a solid place to plug in a rookie QB.   I agree.  Much better than 2 years ago.  Assuming we have some sort of plan to keep the OL solid of course.  

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18 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

i haven't seen that anywhere, but if its true it makes me think of what (former panthers offensive lineman with a radio show name escapes me) said last season that he doesn't think Canales likes Bryce and wants him gone. 

the offense was atrocious last season without Thielen. I think that was far more about him being out than Andy being in. 

Star Tribune beat reporter "Ben Goessling" for the Vikings was saying it was close and they were discussing a third day pick for compensation. 

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7 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

If this is the case, which I don't completely rule out, I wonder how Canales plans on navigating this mess of convincing Tepper we have to move on from Bryce while not getting himself canned in the process? 

you trade away Bryce's security blanket, and when he eats poo you say "look at all the money and resources and he STILL can't play" 

then you promise Nicole will get input on the next QB too

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2 minutes ago, carpanfan96 said:

Star Tribune beat reporter for the Vikings was saying it was close and they were discussing a third day pick for compensation. 

We probably want a 4th, they want it to be a 6th, maybe we settle on a 5th, maybe we toss in a 7th back to them to get it.

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2 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

you trade away Bryce's security blanket, and when he eats poo you say "look at all the money and resources and he STILL can't play" 

then you promise Nicole will get input on the next QB too

Didn't Nicole want Stroud? Hell, I'm sold. Let her make the call. LOL

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